Boat Purchase Decision Help - 1993 Glastron 17.5' Merc. 3.0l - 4 cylinder I/O

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zopperman

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Re: Boat Purchase Decision Help - 1993 Glastron 17.5' Merc. 3.0l - 4 cylinder I/O

Typically, how far into one of these projects does the thought of "wtf did I get myself into" hit?
Jon

The day you decide to get a boat. :p

The Lund is still listed when I click it? Even if you missed it, keep looking. I was hoping to see you on Lake Hopatcong this weekend!!!
 

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The day you decide to get a boat. :p

The Lund is still listed when I click it? Even if you missed it, keep looking. I was hoping to see you on Lake Hopatcong this weekend!!!

You may need to do a "Shift"+RefreshButton to see the latest update to the page. I'm getting the "post deleted by it's author" message. :(

I'm thinking of just pulling the trigger on the Krusty Krab - I found a way to tow it myself for cheaper (Enterprise now rents pickup trucks - I don't remember them having those in the past but maybe I just missed that - the Enterprise daily rate is higher but you get 150 miles free, so works out to be cheaper than using Uhaul or other companies for this particular long haul round trip).
 

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What's the rate?
HD has a rent a pickup service. DO you have a vehicle capable of getting a hitch installed?
 

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One thing to consider is placing an ad on craigslist. I was tired of looking and decided to place an ad stating that I had this amount of money to invest in a boat. I got multiple calls and ended up buying one of those boats. Might be worth a shot.
 

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What's the rate?
HD has a rent a pickup service. DO you have a vehicle capable of getting a hitch installed?

It's pretty reasonable: $65 for the day, 150 free miles included, $0.25 per mile thereafter. If you know your mileage in advance, they only charge you $0.15 per mile over the 150, but you prepay for it. Works out way better than the UHaul truck (which is only $19.99 per day but you don't get any free miles and it's between $1 and $2 per mile depending on weekday/weekend).

I don't have a vehicle I could put a hitch on for the long haul - I'll probably put a hitch on my civic or my challenger just to take the boat in and out of the water and park it on the lawn right next to the ramp, but need something better to haul it home with. Technically speaking, the challenger has the engine and braking to tow something big, but I don't think the frame has the structural setup for that (they don't recommend towing with it).
 

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One thing to consider is placing an ad on craigslist. I was tired of looking and decided to place an ad stating that I had this amount of money to invest in a boat. I got multiple calls and ended up buying one of those boats. Might be worth a shot.

That's not a bad idea.

At this point I'm a bit worried about the Lund, though I was thinking that maybe he just took it down because he planned to winterize it and give up on selling for the season after this weekend (that's what he told me), so maybe didn't want any more emails/calls coming in on it. Maybe it's still there and maybe I'm the last guy coming to see it - at which point I'll be buying it. Fingers and toes crossed.
 

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It's pretty reasonable: $65 for the day, 150 free miles included, $0.25 per mile thereafter. If you know your mileage in advance, they only charge you $0.15 per mile over the 150, but you prepay for it. Works out way better than the UHaul truck (which is only $19.99 per day but you don't get any free miles and it's between $1 and $2 per mile depending on weekday/weekend).

I don't have a vehicle I could put a hitch on for the long haul - I'll probably put a hitch on my civic or my challenger just to take the boat in and out of the water and park it on the lawn right next to the ramp, but need something better to haul it home with. Technically speaking, the challenger has the engine and braking to tow something big, but I don't think the frame has the structural setup for that (they don't recommend towing with it).

Fixed this by buying one of these:

http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/gmc/sierra-1500-pricing/
 

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That's always a good solution :)

I was actually thinking about picking up a beater truck to do the towing and to use for some other jobs and then reselling, but too much of a PITA right now.
 

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This is starting to sound like a, "Putting the cart before the horse", type story!:facepalm:
But wait, you don't even have a horse.:eek:
You need to get all your duck's in a row before you start buying toy's. ;)

No offense. :redface:
 

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This is starting to sound like a, "Putting the cart before the horse", type story!:facepalm:
But wait, you don't even have a horse.:eek:
You need to get all your duck's in a row before you start buying toy's. ;)

No offense. :redface:


No offense taken - I know how it can look that way. In some ways it is a bit out of order. The current plan is to get the boat using the rented truck, launch it that day, keep it in the water until like November and then pull it out and park it for the winter on the property. To pull it out I'll either put a hitch on my civic or my challenger and will use that again to launch it next season. I figure if I need to take the boat somewhere I can always re-rent the truck, but for the most part the boat will live at the dock or parked right near it on the trailer.
 

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:( I regret to inform all of you that the Lund was sold on Friday and not to me. There's other boats in the sea I suppose, but I did get pretty excited about that one.

I'm going to check a few more ads and then see - thinking about pulling the trigger on the Krusty Krab.
 

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:( I regret to inform all of you that the Lund was sold on Friday and not to me. There's other boats in the sea I suppose, but I did get pretty excited about that one.

I'm going to check a few more ads and then see - thinking about pulling the trigger on the Krusty Krab.

Don't get discouraged. The first boat i was ever going to buy, actually on lk hopatcong, got sold as I was on my way to pick it up. I learned a lot because I didn't get that boat. It wasn't menat to be.
 

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Alright - more updates: Enterprise, it turns out, does not allow any towing with their vehicles. Seems that the first person I spoke with was mistaken. They don't have hitches on their trucks (one I saw had the wiring in place from the factory and the slot to put your own ball on the bumper, but they said that would violate the contract and when I inquired further they refused to rent me the truck (asked them about "hypothetically, if someone were to want to tow with it).

Was able to talk to U-Haul to get a pickup truck to do a round trip - $19.99 for the day + a special mileage rate of $0.69 per mile, puts me somewhere at a total cost of $125 plus gas. A little more than the Enterprise truck would have worked out to, but at least they're okay with towing and setup for it.

Haven't seen anything else interesting online lately - I'm going to pickup the Krusty Krab tomorrow. Wish me luck with the tow on the 70 mile journey :)
 

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Picked up the Krusty Krab today - will get some pics up soon (was dark by the time I got the boat home and it's supposed to rain the next few days.

Was one heck of an adventure getting it: After all the truck research I had to go back to the UHaul option. They quoted me $19.95 and $0.99/mile - talked to them and they gave me $0.69/mile. Started heading for my rental when they called me to confirm my 10' box truck - I had asked for a pickup truck. It turns out they have no pickups in my area because of lack of demand, so the smallest they have is the 10' box truck. Talked to them some more, explaining that a box truck was going to eat up more gas because of the giant box on the back....they lowered the per mile rate to $0.59/mile. Went to pickup the truck - filled out all the paperwork, signed everything, gave them credit card/license/etc. We went over to look at the truck (they only have one at this location, they're a storage place and do the UHaul thing as a side business)....they then realized that they had lost the key (apparently whoever last checked the truck in may have accidentally brought the key home with them and they were down the shore). Fast forward another 30 minutes or so and I'm at another UHaul location filling out the same paperwork. Finally in the truck by 1230-1245PM (was hoping to be in the truck by 1030AM). Drive down to the seller's house and we go to install his 1-7/8" ball onto the draw bar when we realize that the shank width on his ball is 1" but the shank hole on the draw bar is 3/4". Back to a local UHaul to get a 1-7/8" ball with 3/4" shank. Luckily, the seller wasn't upset about all the delays and hassles - he was actually quite nice about it. We installed the new ball and then went to hook up the trailer wiring....turns out it was about 2" too short!! We realized it was the ground wire that was holding us back so we cut that (thinking that the metal-to-metal connection between trailer tongue and truck hitch would act as a circuit ground...and it did). Finally, at about 4PM I was on my way home.

Stopped at the West Marine and another marine shop on the way home to get myself some good 2-cycle marine oil, gear oil for the lower end, new spark plugs, 2 new bumpers, tarp, etc.

Got home 7PM with the boat and attempted to get it through the gate that is about 1 foot wider than the truck - by some miracle my landlord was working on the apartment upstairs so I gave him a call - he drops his boat in via the ramp at the apartment, so he was able to get it backed in on the first try. The boat is now sitting at water's edge waiting to go in (we were going to put her in tonight but there's rain in the forecast and I didn't want to see her sunk with the bilge pump running the battery dry). Oh how I wanted to take my new toy out on the water as soon as I got it home (and being as it was dark it was a good time to take the expired-registration-having-boat out for a short spin (granted at night may not be the best time for the first voyage on an unfamiliar boat).

All in all, things went well - one heck of a process to get down there and to get the boat back but was fun (glad I took the day off of work and didn't only take a half day). The owner was great in setting me up with the boat - he put new grease in the hubs (has bearing buddies) and put some oil/grease on other important areas. He walked me through his entire winterization process for the boat (lower unit, fogging oil, spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter, grease ports on the motor, steering cable shaft (he puts ATF into it). He even said that during the winter, every month or so, he puts some ATF into each cylinder and turns the flywheel a few revolutions to make sure the cylinders are well protected (obviously this means that it smokes like heck the first time it's started in the spring). He's got a trickle charger hard-wired to the electrical system to charge the boat when it's sitting (just have to run an extension cord).

Pictures and official stats on the boat and engine to come (need to find out the exact year of the motor, we know it's from the 90's sometime and the boat it turns out is actually made by "Traveler" and was created sometime in the mid 60's (it's on the title but don't have it in front of me)).

Very excited, but of course making sure that common sense wins out when it comes to putting the proper pieces in place before taking her out on the water.
 

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P.S. What are folks using to make internal support structures for laying tarps over the boats for the winter?
 

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PVC, or 2x4s
 

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What about those giant airbags that they use in pools when the cover is on to keep the cover elevated? Anyone try that?
 

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I use a 48" beach ball up front over the cuddy and one on the engine cover in the back, both slightly under-inflated. The rest of it is supported by the windshield and the at-rest frame for the convertible top at about midships. I used to have a 1x4 board with a kneepad on top to hold the middle up on the previous cover, but my new one has more room up top and the at-rest top frame works for the exact middle of my boat now. I thought I had pics of it but cannot find them now.
 

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oh and CONGRATS!!!! Now get a hitch on that civic :p
 

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Hi All,

Okay so I got the Traveler home, got the trailer half in the water (blocked up the front wheel so it isn't going anywhere) and am now just waiting out some rainy days before taking her on maiden voyage (well, very maiden voyage for a 50 year old boat).

Found something that I'm concerned about on the hull - putting pictures below. I had originally seen that the previous owner had created some strengthening brackets to shore up the hull to gunwale seam. I figured the hull was most likely going to only get me one or two seasons and that I could keep the trailer, equipment and motor for another hull. Today while spending some time going over the boat, I found something that I either missed before or something that developed on the long ride home - the seam just in front of where his strengthening brackets end is clearly stressed. What's your take on it? I'm thinking that I get equal thickness aluminum plating and put it right on the other side of where his plating ends and then get another longer plating and join the two plated areas (bolts through everything).

WIDE ANGLE SHOT OF THE STRENGTHENING BRACKET
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CLOSE UP OF THE STRENGTHENING BRACKET
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AREA THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT
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