Boating Accidents (post here)

aldena

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I have already learned that if the boat is drifting away, swimming after it may not be as good of an idea as it first appears.

In this situation, what would the properly trained person do? Is this kind of thing taught in boat training, or learned through experience? It happened to me once at the dock, I looked both ways to check for traffic, fortunetly there were no other boats around, and dove in after it.
 
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bad one in the uk this week. boat ejected driver and others in water, motor didnt cut out (still under investigation) boat turned and ran circles over people in water. (please no coment on lanyard until proven that it was not worn correctly)
Educational part i found of this story was a local captain was meant to have thrown a rope overboard stalling or slowing one engine and allowed him to board and kill the other motor (as reported). Never considered the best way to tackle a run away but this sounds like something everyone should know.
 

emilsr

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IF the discussion of accidents was kept civil and without speculation it COULD be a learning tool....but....

..... I'm on a couple of other boat forums, and the accidents generate lots of finger pointing, speculation, and little else. Honestly, it probably does more harm than good.

Tread lightly my boating brothers.
 

salty87

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unless you're on one of the boats in an accident, chances of getting actual facts are slim. reporters are mostly worthless, there aren't many witnesses that aren't involved normally and lawyers ...well, i'll leave it at that.
 

Frank Acampora

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We have a boat safety forum. That should be sufficient to learn what not to do. "War stories" really are no help.
 

HellRaZoR004

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bad one in the uk this week. boat ejected driver and others in water, motor didnt cut out (still under investigation) boat turned and ran circles over people in water. (please no coment on lanyard until proven that it was not worn correctly)
Educational part i found of this story was a local captain was meant to have thrown a rope overboard stalling or slowing one engine and allowed him to board and kill the other motor (as reported). Never considered the best way to tackle a run away but this sounds like something everyone should know.

For all the naysayers, this post was helpful. ...
 
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UncleWillie

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Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

In this situation, what would the properly trained person do? Is this kind of thing taught in boat training, or learned through experience? It happened to me once at the dock, I looked both ways to check for traffic, fortunately there were no other boats around, and dove in after it.

The point is to check your total situation before instinctively jumping in after it.
If you are reasonably sure no other boats are in the area, Go for It! :joyous:

If there ARE other boats, "Swimming after it may not be as good of an idea as it first appears."
Flagging down another boat to tow your drifter back, or ferrying you out to it may be the better option.
 

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Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

I've never had a problem with 'first person' stories and situations posted here, and even posted one I though was valuable a couple years ago. I nearly lost a passenger to drowning in a a really simple, innocent situation. I related the story and what I had learned to do differently. It generated some good ideas and several 'gee, I never thought of that' comments. I consider that type of thread to be valuable.

My issue with regurgitating 'news stories' is that they're always wrong in some important aspect(s), you never have the full story, and there's no opportunity to follow up with the principals for clarification and questions. Everything that gets posted is conjecture based on what people THINK happened, and that just leads to arguments.

My .02
 

SWD

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Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

Wrong quote.
 

Home Cookin'

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really, the disagreement about a thread like this is simple: good reports are useful, bad ones are not. So let's try to post accurate, complete and instructive examples, and then avoid speculation and accusation. We all know the "drunk hits channel marker at night in overloaded boat" stories; they add nothing.

The "lanyard caught in throttle" is very instructive. Seems they need to fix that. Ironic when a safety device is dangerous.
 

SWD

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Re: Boating Accidents (post here)

bad one in the uk this week. boat ejected driver and others in water, motor didnt cut out (still under investigation) boat turned and ran circles over people in water. (please no coment on lanyard until proven that it was not worn correctly)
Educational part i found of this story was a local captain was meant to have thrown a rope overboard stalling or slowing one engine and allowed him to board and kill the other motor (as reported). Never considered the best way to tackle a run away but this sounds like something everyone should know.

Vessel in question only had one outboard.....300hp Yamaha. A local seaman went out with his rib and was able to jump on board after coming along side and regain control of the other boat. It appears, judging by photographs taken of the boat in question, that either the kill switch was not used or malfunctioned. An investigation is on going.
 

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It was a lot of years ago but I know a person that got his anchor stuck on something in the bottom of the lake. He tried pulling it by hand from various directions buy moving the boat. No luck so he used the boat motor to try to pull it loose. He hooked the rope to the back of the boat and slowely pulled. He pulled whatever it was into deeper water and swampped his boat almost instantly. He assumes it was a good sized tree he was hooked on. He said he couldn't react fast enough and get the rope cut becasue it went that quick. Accident -- I guess, Stupid -- a little. I was a young first time boat owner and I learned a lot from this persons error. Lesson, if your anchor is stuck consider leaving it stuck or make sure you have someone on a sharp knife ready to cut the rope if something goes bad.
 

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We try not to close threads unless absolutely necessary. Best thing is to let the thread die....... Sorry Jacobs........

So much for the Mod's wishes..........:facepalm:
 

jjacobs007

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This thread is going somewhere! but i really just wanted people to post links of stories that happened in there near lake areas recently,stories are fine too, but will lead to arguements.Links will keep it straight forward and if you post the lake and state we can quick search all accidents on our home waters,and learn of hidden dangers under water and out of mind.Thank you all for not giving up and feel free to pm me if you have ideas to help this cause in anyway.


Maybe if we just post the links to the actual stories and say nothing it will work.
JJacobs
 
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