Boating the Upper Chesapeake

skargo

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Yeah, I hope so too! If not, she will spend the season in an island slip.

When I talked to them, it sounded like the 30' range turned over pretty quickly.

I figured it out to be about $300 a month for a transient slip when available. Also, there is a possibility or the bulkhead space as well I believe.

I guess we will wait to see what happens in January. Keeping my fingers crossed with the Island as the back up plan.
If we get stuck on the island, maybe we can pitch in on a dingy?
 

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So far it is still a surprise. Although that is harder than I though it would be!

I travel a lot for work in the Mid Atlantic area so it is not uncommon for me to get within about an hour away from the boats location in any given week.

So I took a half day off of work last Friday after my morning appointment and scooted over there to winterize. The FWC engines are really easy to winterize!

The shopping has all been done from home :)

Will probably only spend 2 or 3 more afternoons on the boat over the winter to fix up what is needed before the spring run back.

We will see what happens!
 

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If you get stuck on the island slip i would pitch in for a gas generator to charge up your batteries. Just keep it on the dock. The main point of getting a slip is having electricity to charge everything up. otherwise just get a mooring for half price.

If they were smart they would run an electric line, under water, out the the island.

It is still like 2 ft deep over there at low tide? that whole marina is crazy shallow. not very sailboat freindly.
 

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I have a small one that came with the boat that will work fine for that. I agree, it wouldn't be too bad to run some electric out there!

My boat will draft 29" so it better be deeper than 2' at low tide. I was told by Tydings that my draft would not be a problem at all.
 

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I have a small one that came with the boat that will work fine for that. I agree, it wouldn't be too bad to run some electric out there!

My boat will draft 29" so it better be deeper than 2' at low tide. I was told by Tydings that my draft would not be a problem at all.
There's plenty of water over there. Hard Crab was over there, and I still have a slip there till Jan. The brochure for my boat says it draws 25".
 

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If you get stuck on the island slip i would pitch in for a gas generator to charge up your batteries. Just keep it on the dock. The main point of getting a slip is having electricity to charge everything up. otherwise just get a mooring for half price.

If they were smart they would run an electric line, under water, out the the island.

It is still like 2 ft deep over there at low tide? that whole marina is crazy shallow. not very sailboat freindly.
An island slip costs $315 a year, how much is a mooring?
 

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Yeah, I will pay the $315 and have a secure place to tie her up over grabbing a mooring in the middle of the Susky!

Earlier this year, during a low tide, you could look across to the island slips and clearly see where it had been dredged and that there was still plenty of water depth. I am not worried.
 

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Wow, I did not know it was that cheap.

you can't beat $315. Most moorings are about $700.

The one bad thing about a fixed dock is that if its not tied up perfect, your boat will hit the dock.
But i think a dock is a lot easier than a mooring.
It is easier to just grab a mooring, than navigating the boat into a dock.
 

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Earlier this year, during a low tide, you could look across to the island slips and clearly see where it had been dredged and that there was still plenty of water depth. I am not worried.

Yup- they dredged all the island slips and their approches to 5'MLW. They did NOT dredge the little basin between the island and the entrance channel, which is a shame because that could be a great mooring area.
BTW- the entrance channel is scheduled to be dredged in December according to a marina employee. By using my trusty 'HdG Time Calculator' that means that it MIGHT done by April or May...;)



The one bad thing about a fixed dock is that if its not tied up perfect, your boat will hit the dock.
Not really. The normal tidal range in our area is only a couple feet, so it's pretty easy to get a boat centered in a slip and the lines adjusted so it doesn't rub at high OR low tide.
 

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Winterized my 318s and manifolds today. I did start up the port engine briefly today, started right up!
 

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I have always used floating docks. So i would not know the art of tying up to a fixed dock.

do you want the ropes to slide up and down the poles?
 

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Good to hear Scott.
Just wondering- will she be keeping the Hard Crab name?
I think that's a great name (FWIW).
With these bigger boats, winterizing is more than just engines. Have you winterized the water system (washdowns, water heater, sinks, shower, head)?
How 'bout you Brandon? The A/C system needs pink stuff too, and don't forget the shower sump.
Make sure the seacocks are OPEN for the winter since you guys are storing on land.


do you want the ropes to slide up and down the poles?
Nope. The bow LINES are tied securely to PILINGS. The stern lines are attached to cleats on the dock. With my boat, I use forward spring lines to the same pilings.
Caps show the proper nautical verbage, if you care.
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Rob, she will remain Hard Crab, I like it, and the crab!

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I know the head hasn't worked in some time, no hot water heater. I did get a manual so I will try and trace all systems.
 

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Re: Boating the Upper Chesapeake

Yea, you never wanna change the name of a boat.
Its really bad luck.
 

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Yea, you never wanna change the name of a boat.
Its really bad luck.
Actually, it is not bad luck at all if you follow the proper renaming ceremony to appease the boating gods.

Ceremony for Renaming Your Boat

By Capt. Pat

Everyone knows that renaming your boat will bring nothing but bad luck and make your boating experience something that you will want to forget. But what happens when, after months of searching, you find your dreamboat with a name that you just cannot live with. For example, my first love was a 28-foot Alden with the most beautiful lines I?d ever seen. She was named Perfidious. How could anything this graceful be named betrayer of trust? Well, I never bought her, but I often thought that if I had, I would have renamed her Magic, after my wife.

Renaming a boat is, of course, not something to be done lightly. Since the beginning of time, sailors have sworn that there are unlucky ships and the unluckiest ships of all are those who have defied the gods and changed their names. So, is there a way to change a name and not incur the wrath of those deities that rule the elements? Yes, Virginia, there is.

poseidon.jpg (19958 bytes)According to legend, each and every vessel is recorded by name in the Ledger of the Deep and is known personally to Poseidon, or Neptune, the god of the sea. It is logical therefore, if we wish to change the name of our boat, the first thing we must do is to purge its name from the Ledger of the Deep and from Poseidon?s memory.

This is an involved process beginning with the removal or obliteration of every trace of the boat?s current identity. This is essential and must be done thoroughly.

I once went through the ceremony after the owner had assured me that every reference to his boat?s old name had been purged from her. A couple of weeks later, he discovered he had missed a faded name on her floating key chain. I advised him to start over, perhaps with a little extra libation for the ruler of the sea. Unfortunately, he declined.

Since then, his boat has been struck by lightning, had its engine ruined by the ingress of the sea, been damaged by collision and finally sunk! It pays to be thorough.

In purging your boat, it is acceptable to use White-Out or some similar obliterating fluid to expunge the boat?s name from log books, engine and maintenance records etc., but it is much easier to simply remove the offending document from the boat and start afresh. Don?t forget the life rings and especially the transom and forward name boards.

Do not under any circumstances carry aboard any item bearing your boat?s new name until the purging and renaming ceremonies have been completed!

Once you are certain every reference to her old name has been removed from her, all that is left to do is to prepare a metal tag with the old name written on it in water-soluble ink. You will also need a bottle of reasonably good Champagne. Plain old sparkling wine won?t cut it. Since this is an auspicious occasion, it is a good time to invite your friends to witness and to party. Begin by invoking the name of the ruler of the deep as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to expunge for all time from your records and recollection the name (here insert the old name of your vessel) which has ceased to be an entity in your kingdom. As proof thereof, we submit this ingot bearing her name to be corrupted through your powers and forever be purged from the sea. (At this point, the prepared metal tag is dropped from the bow of the boat into the sea.)

In grateful acknowledgment of your munificence and dispensation, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (Pour at least half of the bottle of Champagne into the sea from East to West. The remainder may be passed among your guests.

It is usual for the renaming ceremony to be conducted immediately following the purging ceremony, although it may be done at any time after the purging ceremony. For this portion of the proceedings, you will need more Champagne, Much more because you have a few more gods to appease.Begin the renaming by again calling Poseidon as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to take unto your records and recollection this worthy vessel hereafter and for all time known as (Here insert the new name you have chosen), guarding her with your mighty arm and trident and ensuring her of safe and rapid passage throughout her journeys within your realm.

In appreciation of your munificence, dispensation and in honor of your greatness, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (At this point, one bottle of Champagne, less one glass for the master and one glass for the mate are poured into the sea from West to East.)

The next step in the renaming ceremony is to appease the gods of the winds. This will assure you of fair winds and smooth seas. Because the four winds are brothers, it is permissible to invoke them all at the same time, however, during the ceremony; you must address each by name. Begin in this manner:

Oh mighty rulers of the winds, through whose power our frail vessels traverse the wild and faceless deep, we implore you to grant this worthy vessel (Insert your boat?s new name) the benefits and pleasures of your bounty, ensuring us of your gentle ministration according to our needs.(Facing north, pour a generous libation of Champagne into a Champagne flute and fling to the North as you intone:) Great Boreas, exalted ruler of the North Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your frigid breath.(Facing west, pour the same amount of Champagne and fling to the West while intoning:) Great Zephyrus, exalted ruler of the West Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your wild breath.(Facing east, repeat and fling to the East.) Great Eurus, exalted ruler of the East Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your mighty breath.

(Facing south, repeat, flinging to the South.) Great Notus, exalted ruler of the South Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your scalding breath.

Of course, any champagne remaining will be the beginnings of a suitable celebration in honor of the occasion.

Once the ceremony has been completed, you may bring aboard any and all items bearing the new name of your vessel. If you must schedule the painting of the new name on the transom before the ceremony, be sure the name is not revealed before the ceremony is finished. It may be covered with bunting or some other suitable material.
 

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How 'bout you Brandon? The A/C system needs pink stuff too, and don't forget the shower sump.
Make sure the seacocks are OPEN for the winter since you guys are storing on land.

Rob - thanks for checking. I Actually own a camper so I have had some past experience winterizing water systems. The FWC engines only took 30 mins or so to winterize since they are really easy. I did the fuel treatment, let the engines warm up, fogging, etc. although I don't normally do this, I used crankcase stabilizer and will change the filters and oil in the spring. I then spent a few hours crawling all over the boat winterizing everything else.

I dumped 6 gallons down the fresh water fill and verified that it went into the empty tank. Then I found out the pressure pump had went bad and been removed. The plumbing had been jumped out to run off the city water inlet instead. So I pumped (sump pump to city inlet) pink stuff through the system and out of each faucet until the pink stuff came through both hot and cold. (galley sink, head sink, and shower faucet. This should have covered the hot water heater too. I also dumped about 1/3rd of a gallon down the shower drain until I could here the pump kick on.

I also pumped some through the head thru hull fitting (name is escaping me right now) and pumped the manual head until it came through. Then I dumped a half gallon down the head and let it go through to the waste tank to make sure there were no low spots in that line.

I didn't do anything with the A/C because its currently not working. (control board maybe?) instead they installed a small window unit which I think will be coming out. Although, now that I think about it, I may head back over and pump some through just in case I can repair/fix it.

Is there anything that you think I may have missed? Trying to get over there for the day Friday to work on it some more and I can work on anything you suggest!

Oh yeah, I also stuffed the exhaust holes with rags.

Rob, just out of curiosity, why leave the seacocks open, just to make sure that there isn't any water trapped in them? Also, by your comment, I assume that you would close them if you are leaving the boat in the water? Could you explain the reasons behind this? Sorry, I am just always trying to learn more and more and it makes it easier when I understand the theory behind it! Thanks again for all the info you share with us, it is very much appreciated!
 
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