Boats, kids, fish, PETA

[snapperbait]

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... dinner... Grouper fingers.......

 

[Dave Abrahamson]

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Nice Red Grouper Swampnut. I agree that a chat with the teacher might be in order. BTW, where are ya catchin' Grouper in AZ?

 

[one more cast]

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Post a copy of the school menu and lets see whats on it! ...and ..Tell the boy that OMC said congratulations on the fine catch.

 

[jtexas]

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"Mother Nature"...sounds like some kind of deity to me...

 

[SwampNut]

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School menu doesn't count. All the food on it died of old age, don't you know?

 

[2manyboats]

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One of the beauties of living in TX is the public high school course in wildlife management my daughter is taking. She got an "A" for her report on how nutria destroy wetlands habitat in LA and TX coast. The report of course included pictures of us "culling" the critters in southern LA. <br /><br />Trigger fish are yummy!

 

[Drowned Rat]

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I guess I'd have to tell the teacher to mind his/her own business. And then tell her to take a look in the mirror before judging others. Is she a vegetarian? Is she wearing leather shoes? How much of Mother Earth was "rearranged" to put that diamond on her finger?? Tell her to keep her hippocritic comments to herself.

 

[JamesFrith]

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Hey Swampnut,<br /><br />Dont give in....my best childhood memories are fishing with my dad, uncles, and granddad. I started my 4 year old last year just hooking perch and thats all he talks about is when are we going fishing dad? Your son will probably show his children or grandchildren that photo one day.<br /><br />BTW.. are you the same swampnut as on the BlackBird forums?

 

[POINTER94]

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I have to say the more I see the more I am concerned. First, what are you doing spending time with your son, how can they ascribe the litinany of "diseases" commonly associated to young boys? You keep him active like that and how will he ever get perscribed riddlin? Second, I see a military hat on his head, what kind of message is that? Lets not even go there. Third, looks like a power boat burning all those precious fossil fuels and poluting mother nature, Fourth is that a gaff hook in the last pic? Fifth, all that smiling just isn't good if he is to be a good brooding anti-establishment type.<br /><br />As for what to do with a teacher who thinks it is their job to indoctinate instead of instruct, I am the least qualified to answer as I have no children but I would show up at the school without my son knowing, during the day, have her pulled out of class like a child and let her know if you hear from your son or any other child that this usurping of your parental authority has occured again you will remove your child from her class and bring the matter to the superintendant and then the school board. I would also have a written complaint in hand to put into her file. <br /><br />My wife being a teacher I wouldn't let most of her co-workers babysit my plants. Truely some sad examples of human beings. But like all school yard bullies, they recoil like cowards when called to the mat.

 

[SwampNut]

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Hahaha, great stuff, pointer.<br /><br />

<br />BTW.. are you the same swampnut as on the BlackBird forums?

That's me. Same a**hole, different place.

 

[woodrat]

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My kids have been around home grown meat and butchering since they were tots. And I was pretty much a hippie back then too, so maybe "hippie" isn't the best terminology to apply here. Not all hippies are vegan PETA protesters you know, and not all vegan PETA folks are hippies.... Extremism comes in all flavors. In fact, the man who taught me how to butcher a hog was pretty much a straight up, long grey hair and beard hippie biker type, and he was really proud of us younger hippies jumping in and growing our own meat.<br /><br />My older daughter has elected to stay homeschooled and with all of her liberal sensitivities, she just shakes her head in disbelief when hearing about PETA and the vegan crowd. Her sister decided to be normal and go to school, where she hears all kinds of crap, liberal and conservative both. Staying involved and having conversations is the best medicine

 

[woodrat]

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That is a great picture of the boy with the fish by the way.<br /><br />Oh and for people who want to see first hand what the PETA folks are saying, go to http://www.fishinghurts.com. I think that PETA originally had some very good points about factory farming and cruelty to animals, but they have gotten way off the mark and seem to basically have been taken over by militant vegans and such. Too bad. Bringing about more humane ways of supplying meat was a good mission and now the whole topic is tainted by PETAs militancy and wackiness.

 

[jtexas]

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anybody still have the url to that Penn & Teller PETA expose?<br /><br /><br />I took a few minutes to browse the website you linked here's a couple things taken from two different articles, and not "taken out of context" to the extent that they would be misleading if you read the whole thing.<br /><br />"Researchers at the University of Illinois found that fish-eaters with high levels of PCBs in their blood have difficulty recalling information they have learned just 30 minutes earlier..."<br /><br />"fish have a memory span of at least three months,"<br /><br />I wonder what the fish were eating?

 

[woodrat]

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oops on the link!<br /><br />For me, it's not even about whether or not fish feel pain, or have memories or some level of fishy intelligence. I don't doubt that all of those things are true. But I still reserve the right to harvest and eat them, with respect for the fish themselves and nature as a whole. I always give my prey a quick and relatively pain-free dispatch with a club to the head. The folks who let their catch flop around for minutes on the floor of the boat in the hot sun do make me cringe. It just doesn't seem very respectful of another being's life, not to mention being hard on the meat quality.<br /><br />I think a lot of the people who are all fired up and protesting just don't have a very good understanding of nature in the first place, since many of them are almost never really exposed to much nature. And the vegans who want everyone to eat soy are just not thinking at all. Large scale soy farming is not a particularly ecologically sensitive propostion, being hard on the topsoil, and rife with toxic chemicals and genetically engineered seed.<br /><br />Like I said, i used to respect PETA to the extent that they were publicizing large scale factory farming abuses and more people started thinking about the costs behind cheap grocery store meat. But now they've just gone right off the deep end. I'm sure they would have a fit if they ever watched how I butcher a lamb, even though I do it as quickly and respectfully as possible and the lamb has a fantastic life on green grass and fresh air right up until the end.<br /><br />At least neither of my kids is likely to grow up with such a limited understanding of where food comes from and what it costs.

 

[Serentiy]

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What is the " trigger " on the fish where is it located Just courious. I'm still scared of getting finned by our cat fish. I'm glad you said food kids need to learn that animals are also for us to eat but to treat them with respect and not to let them suffer. but knowing it is not just the prey your after it is getting out in nature and enjoying the memories your creating. Good for you teaching your youngstir that. Good fishing and Goood eating = great memories.<br />Serenity

 

[NOSLEEP]

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POINTER94 you make a very good point. <br /><br />I agree with your assessment of how serious the<br />"indoctrinate above teaching", Has and is being affected<br />in the school system. Biased ultra Liberal opinion being feed to children. The outcome not<br />a good thing in my mind.<br /><br />SwampNut should make the school district keenly<br />aware of his displeasure. That is the only way<br />to have any affect on the steady push to the<br />left in the school system.

 

[OBJ]

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Just occured to me.......(it's called a "thought".....hurt a little) what if we stranded some of these PETA people on an island with no vegetation on it, for a week or two with nothing but a fishing pole....would they forget about the "don't hurt the fish" thing or would they go fishing? Maybe they'd just eat dirt......just a thought......*ouch!*........

 

[Wimperdink]

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from woodrats link.... http://www.fishinghurts.com/FAQ.asp <br /><br />"Didn’t Jesus eat fish?<br />It’s an interesting question, but Biblical scholars agree that the appropriate question for Christians is, “What should we be eating?” The Bible clearly says that our bodies are temples and that we should take care of them. Yet it’s a fact that all fish flesh today is contaminated with heavy metals and other toxins. In fact, fish flesh is just about the most polluted thing that humans put into their bodies. On that basis alone, Christians should not be eating it.<br /><br />Today’s fishing practices are also horribly cruel to God’s creatures. God cares for all His creatures, and the Bible counsels compassion for all beings. We all understand that it is immoral and contrary to Christian mercy to torture dogs and cats. It is equally unchristian to torture and kill (or pay others to torture and kill) fish and other animals. Although they may not be able to scream out in pain, fish have the same capacity for suffering and the same right to compassion as all living beings."<br /><br /><br />Peta thinks people that eat fish cannot be christian? Unbelievable. <br /><br />Wonder how peta members taste with a lil bbq sauce?

 

[cmyers_uk]

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Your sons face says it all. Don't worry about what other people say. Whatever you do in life someone somewhere will criticise. You enjoy what you do, your son is clearly enjoying it too.<br /><br />Lovely photos

 

[scrapper]

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Peta Protest link http://www.wimp.com/petaprotest/