boats on a budget

[SandMan*]

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Looks like some type of carrying handle, and the 2 broken off stubs looks to me like there used to be a ring there.

That's easily welded and ground smooth.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Looks like some type of carrying handle, and the 2 broken off stubs looks to me like there used to be a ring there.

That's easily welded and ground smooth.

I was just showing it to my brother, I think that's what I'm going to do with it, then I need to do something about that hole in the front of the boat that's right under the bow cap.

I'll weld up the hole in the bow cap, grind off the nubs where the ring or what ever it was used to be, and polish it up.

 

[SandMan*]

Re: boats on a budget

I'd grind it down and weld a new ring on, never know, it could be useful!

Nothing better than an extra place to rope on to.

Shouldn't be too hard to plug the hole in the boat though, could plug weld that too and grind er' smooth. Find a bolt that will fit in the hole, weld the bolt in, take a zip disk and cut it off then grind it smooth

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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tomorrow I think I'll work on the bow cap, I need to go to work now, dang job anyhow, now work is getting in the way of my boat project, wonder if I can call in sick or something

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: boats on a budget

welding up the hole, or even JB Weld and fill it. you can use a piece of 4x4 untreated, with a little carpentry and shaping, fit it into the v of the bow, leaving the back side flat, the thru bolt a bow eye. also extend you transom board down behind the cross board, this will add an extreme amount of strength to the transom. i think even with the bottom will be good.

 

[Fish n Geer]

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Thats gonna be a nice little fishin rig when you get er done Mr Stuart. I miss my little 12 ftr.Never had a trailer for it though.Drug it around in a pick up bed.Had a 7.5 rude and a 28 lb thrust minn.All carpeted painted up nice.Caught more bass outta that little bugger than you could count.I will post some pictures when I track em down.Anyway looking good bud! The way your moving along you will be done soon.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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When I get the cap off, fixing the hole in the bow should be fairly easy, just as I was walking out the door at my brothers place to come to work, he told me that his neighbor can take that bow cap, make a mold with it, and use the mold to make a new aluminum cap, so you know where I'm going in the morning, over to the neighbors for a visit.

From the looks of the old bow cap, it looks like it had some sort of loop or eye or something on the front of it, I can take some bondo or something and fashion a new eye on to the old bow cap so it can be molded into the new cap, I really need to pay this neighbor a visit.

 

[John_S]

Re: boats on a budget

Nice work, so far. This boat will be so nice, you are not going to want to take it out and get it dirty!

As far as the transom height, I wouldn't raise the motor any further until you could do some test runs. While level with the bottom is best for speed, sharp turning in the small boat could cause the motor to suck air (cavitate). Most small outboard installation manuals recommendan 1" below, too.

I had a 10hp on 10' alum, and test run it a couple of inches higher, (cav plate level with bottom of boat). It did seem to go slightly faster, but now required much wider turns. The transom on that 10'er was similiar to yours, essentialy a flat bottom across, vs a V.

Keep the progress updates coming.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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well those little boats aren't built to take fast sharp turns. they aren't a ski boat. they even have to slow down in a fast turn. the torque of the motor tilts them too much. they also tend to slide the stern in a turn.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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My brother happened to have some alumaweld rod in the basement, so I'm off to the welding store to pick up a stainless steel wire brush, we're going to do some aluminum repair today, I'll get some pictures of the before/during and after posted in here in just a little while.

I stayed up late last night watching some how to video's on using that alumiweld rod and the process, now with some "educated" experience, I should be an expert at it right? ...we'll see, according to the video, they say anybody can do it ....well heck, a welder I'm NOT, so, ...you might want to stay tuned for this next little project, it could get entertaining.

Stuart

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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OK, here we go, alumweld 101 for the inexperenced, (that would be me)

here's what we need to fix, I hate cracks, I probably could have left it alone, but it was a dent/crack that I knew was there, even if it was under the boat.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I decided to drill the crack and put a screw in it and pull it out with a claw hammer, the sides were bulged a little so I squished them back together with some channel lock pliers. I cleaned it with a wire wheel on a grinder, then brushed it with a stainless steel brush, I got it good and clean.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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then I started the process of applying the alumaweld, at this point, my brother said I needed more practice and should find something to practice on and walked off with the camera, ....I can "practice" on my boat can't I?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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and here's the job completed, now I need to find something else to "practice" on, and I think I'll start with that bow cap.

 

[John_S]

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"well those little boats aren't built to take fast sharp turns. they aren't a ski boat. they even have to slow down in a fast turn. the torque of the motor tilts them too much. they also tend to slide the stern in a turn."

Well, they are not exactly speed boats either.

I wasn't doing any acrobatic turns. Running with cav plate close to flush required much wider on plane turns. Along with that 10'er, I found similiar on 14' lite boat (similiar transom). On a modified V bottom boat, I was able to raise it to 1" below without having any cavitation. My point is to try it with his boat, to see how it handles, before finalizing. Blocking under the motor works (upto about 1.5" on most small outboard clamps) very well for testing. I just wouldn't make it perminent part of the transom, without testing.

What does the Johnson/Evinrude owners manual recommend? I have old service manuals, but that info wasn't in them. Also couldn't find them online. On both my Nissan 18 and 40, the recommendation is 1.2 - 2" below the bottom of the boat.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I didn't think about looking in the owners manual to see what it says, I do have one for this little outboard, and you could be right, before I tear apart the inside and start rebuilding, maybe I should hang the motor on it, take it out to the river, with some shims to place under the motor mount and see how it does with and with out the shims? then decide how I want to do the transom after I've run the boat a bit?

 

[Ezrider_92356]

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i would take it for a test run first on my 14fter mine sits about the same and i have no problems iv never tryed raising though to see if there was a differnace but iv never run into any problems with it how it is

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I'm going to take it out and run it before I do anything to the boat, I worked on the trailer today, I got the winch post on it, then kind of got rained out, I'm still having trouble getting it to sit correctly on the trailer, I'll have to post some pictures, as simple as it should be, it just don't seem to like that trailer, but I'm not giving up yet, it's going to fit the way it's supposed to, it just might take some gentle persuasion

 

[tashasdaddy]

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a 2x4 between the trailer frame and under the bunk makes an great adjusting jack. you can firm up the nuts and still move the bunk up to fit. the old fulcrum/lever. works on big boats also.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I put three rollers down the center of the trailer, and thought I had it pretty well figured out, then I put the boat back on it, and it teetered on the center roller, that boat bulges downward in the center, not sure if it is supposed to do that or not, nothing looks stressed, so maybe it's normal? I ended up taking out the center roller I put on the trailer, now there's only two, one in the front and one in the back.