boats on a budget

[Mr.Stuart]

Re: boats on a budget

it's been a few days since I posted, here's some pictures of what I've gotten done, I had to stop working on it for a short time, when I was working on getting the middle seat out of it, it kind of bit me, I threw my back out and need a few days for it to quit hurting and heal up, then I'll be diving back into the boat again.

the first picture is with the seat removed, and the second picture shows the bench up side down, with the foam flotation screwed to the bottom of it.

the middle bench is the one I want to turn into a cooler, so, do I chuck the flotation and go with a cooler? or keep the flotation and chuck the cooler idea?

I'm hoping by this weekend that my back is healed up enough to do the "easy off" oven cleaner treatment to the hull, my plan is to spray it on good and thick, then take it to the car wash and use the pressure washer to clean out the interior and all the oven cleaner.

that's about all the updates I have at the moment.

when I was pulling out the middle seat, I was leaning over the side of the boat, heard something snap in my back, and haven't been able to stand up straight since, so I'm laying low for the past and next few days until I can at least stand in an upright position

 

[tashasdaddy]

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not a doctor, but i have a bad back, but my MD, prescribed , 800mg ibuprohen 3 times a day. takes out the inflamamtion, and really helps the pain. been taking it for 20 years.

 

[Fish n Geer]

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I have been taking those the same way for a few years as well TD. It does help alot!

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I have been taking those the same way for a few years as well TD. It does help alot!

hey, you guys are full of good advice, I tried it, and my back don't hurt near as bad as it did, I'm standing upright today

I'll start back in on the boat tomorrow, I have the toungue jack to put on the trailer, (on sale for $17 at Harbor freight) and i want to try and get the rest of the woodwork out of the boat.

from looking at the pictures, there isn't a whole lot of paint left on it, so stripping it I think should be pretty easy.

what am I doing to further prep it for the gluvit after I use the easy off on it? I'm not feeling like getting in there and doing a bunch of sanding at the moment, is there a chemical way to prep it for the gluvit, primer, and paint?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I was doing some internet searching for easyoff oven cleaner in relation to using it on aluminum boats, and while I haven't been able to find a lot of information I was able to find a little, here's what I came up with so far.

For stripping paint off aluminum it looks like you would want to use easy off odorless, it's less caustic then the original, not as harsh on the aluminum, but still able to get the job done. From what I read, they said that for best results, spay it on, wait about 8 hours (not sure if I want to wait that long or not) then scrub and rinse.

I need to try this out to see how well it's actually going to work.

I also found some easy off acid based lime remover, it claims it's safe for aluminum it says "Dissolves and removes mineral deposits/scale, hard water film, milk and stone/lime buildup. Cleans coffee urns, ice machines, milk dispensers, stainless steel and aluminum surfaces; can be used in restrooms and drinking fountains. Concentrated acid-based formula dilutes up to 1:128"

I'm thinking this might be some good stuff to prep the aluminum for paint after the oven cleaner treatment, I don't want to put a lot of back breaking effort into it for obvious reasons, and I'm more inclined to take the ..er ...lazy way out.

I've posted pictures of both products.

Any ideas or advice before I venture into this?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I'm thinking that's some pretty nasty stuff, and really don't want it running down my driveway, however, there's a do-it-yourself car wash just up the road, that has a dedicated engine cleaning bay, and the pressure washer puts out some pretty good pressure, and it does it with hot water, so my idea is to do the oven cleaner before I go to work, then pay a midnight visit to the car wash, scrub out the boat, then pressure wash the oven cleaner out of it, the car wash would have the sumps to handle what I wash out of the boat, and going late at night when no one else is using it would assure me the hottest water I can get, last time I went there it was mid day, other people were using it, and the water was luke warm, but not real hot, so going late at night, the water in the heater should be about as hot as it’s going to get.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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sound good, this is what gulvit says:
http://www.marinetex.com/PRODUCT PAGE_files/All Gluvit/Gluvit Directions.htm

 

[jspringator]

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Look at this guys Portabote flooring for ideas.

http://donsplace.smugmug.com/gallery/3029412

It has the rich color you are looking for, is anti slip and removeable.

 

[Trackbolt]

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On the interior of my Alumacraft I used both Easy Off and an air conditional coil cleaner to clean and prep the aluminum. I got about the same results from both. I only had bare aluminum therefore did not have any paint to remove. Both did a pretty good job of removing dirt and grease especially in the motor mount area. I had some pretty advanced salt corrosion on the inside so I sanded with 220 using a palm sander. I used a auto body prep solv to wipe down the sanded areas to remove any dust and grease I primed a test spot with zinc oxide primer and top coated with the Rustoleum Hammered silver (Gray). I also applied the Rustoleum to the prepped bare metal. I did this in an area (top of the aluminum seats) that will get alot of traffic with tools, materials and the like during the restoration to see how it will hold up. So far both are doing well. The inside of the hull from the waterline to the seam will get Durabak.

Trackbolt

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Is this durabak stuff any better then the gluvit? The cheapest I've found the gluvit for is $32 a quart.

On a side note, I paid a visit today to a guy that has a whole bunch of old wrecked boats out in his back yard, he sold me an old cruise a day 6 gallon tank that is near flawless for 10 bucks, and I was asking him what he had in the way of old outboards, and he took me around the other side of his shop and showed me a huge rack that had just about every old motor you could imagine, mostly old Johnson?s and Evinrude's, one imparticular caught my attention, it looks identical to the one in the picture, I asked him how much he wanted for it and he pretty much told me that I could have any of the old motors for $100 if he could get them to start, less if he couldn't get it to start, everything was sitting out in the rain, but they all looked good and not all beat up, the old Johnson I was looking at was all original, had a leather strap around the tiller handle with a sheer pin under the strap, and the start cord for it was still wrapped around the top of the motor, there wasn't a dent in it, the tank looked perfect, the decals still in place and no dents what so ever in the tank, it really looked good, I would have taken pictures if I would have had my camera

 

[Trackbolt]

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I don't know if Durabak will seal as well as Gluvit. Durabak is coating that will probably seal in the short term but its primary claim to fame is its durability and resistance to wear.

Trackbolt

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: boats on a budget

the gulvit is worth the money, and a quart will do you complete boat. it goes a long way. i personally don't like durabak, in a boat. if you get another leak it will be very hard to find.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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the gulvit is worth the money, and a quart will do you complete boat. it goes a long way. i personally don't like durabak, in a boat. if you get another leak it will be very hard to find.

OK, then I'll go with the gluvit.

it's pouring down rain today, have a friend that needs help fixing his car, so I'll be on that all afternoon, so I'm probably not going to get much done on the boat today.

 

[Fish n Geer]

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Ok Mr Stuart! Dont lay down on us now! Swallow another IBU 800 and get back at er.You were on a roll

 

[thefairlaneman]

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Someone may have already answered this but where can I buy this stuff called Gluvit?

 

[tashasdaddy]

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call the iboats store.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Ok Mr Stuart! Dont lay down on us now! Swallow another IBU 800 and get back at er.You were on a roll

I got sidetracked with a car project for a friend, we've been working on that the last few days, so I haven't been able to get much done on the boat, I had planed on having his car fixed by Saturday (and start working on the boat again), but I had pulled out the exhaust system to do some repairs on it, and left it sitting next to his car Saturday night and some dirty rotten knockie kneed bow legged little Wiesel, stopped by in the middle of the night and stole his catalytic converter, after a couple of days of searching and not finding a used one, we are going to have to order a new one today, so I'll get more time to work on the boat while we wait for the new cat to show up in the mail.

I've almost got all the wood out of the boat, I did put a tongue jack on it yesterday, so the trailer is pretty much complete except for the spare tire carrier, once I get the rest of the wood out, I'm going to get the paint stripped off the boat, then on to the acid prep and gluvit, I want to try to get that done in one shot, it's been pretty rainy the last few days to, so I'm goiong to have to move it into the friends garage to do the gluvit.

oh, and my back is doing 110% better, I'm pretty much back to normal with it now, the car project just kind of got in the way of my boat project, a friend needed some help, and I er, uh, well, opened my mouth, so I'm kind of committed to that at the moment, but do want to get at the least, some little thing done to the boat, I've neglected it for the last week, and I'm starting to go into withdrawals from not working on it, I'll have more pictures and info soon, I promise

 

[Fish n Geer]

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Alrighty then Mr Stuart.Sorry to hear about the stolen converter.Me hates thieves!

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Alrighty then Mr Stuart.Sorry to hear about the stolen converter.Me hates thieves!

I don't like crooks either, I'm thinking tomorrow that I'll start in on the boat again, I'm falling behind, I want to get that thing done.

 

[wildmaninal]

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Not to keep you off subject but the thief can get good money for them catalytic converters now a days. My father decided to strip his Honda civics he was trying to fix up and sell instead he decided to strip the parts out of them, junk the bodies and sold the catalytic converters for nearly $90 a piece if I remember right then the guy he sold them to was going to make a profit on top of that. Depending on the car you can get more then that. I was going to start trying to find junk cars to hull off and drop the exhaust systems out of them, after junking the bodies, selling parts and selling the catalytic converters for scrap you can make some decent money.