boats on a budget

[Lakester]

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Mr S~
looks like u r putting together a nice combo for fishing, etc. i like ur RED trailer, but i think i would have chosen black for a fishing combo, unless u plan to do the boat in red, also? just my 2-cents...

can u mention the evinrude shaft article's url? is it modle specific or for all?

nice Z car. i remember when the 240's first came out... 1967 or so? a friend got one on order... 2 mo later dealer called and offered him 400 more and he was paying list. it hadnt even come in, yet. he jumped at it and sold out. gosh, 400! mint 62 vettes went for $1500 -1800 and gas was... well u know. cheap!

thanks for sharing...

regards
lakester

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Not to keep you off subject but the thief can get good money for them catalytic converters now a days. My father decided to strip his Honda civics he was trying to fix up and sell instead he decided to strip the parts out of them, junk the bodies and sold the catalytic converters for nearly $90 a piece if I remember right then the guy he sold them to was going to make a profit on top of that. Depending on the car you can get more then that. I was going to start trying to find junk cars to hull off and drop the exhaust systems out of them, after junking the bodies, selling parts and selling the catalytic converters for scrap you can make some decent money.

The catalectic converter theft kind of ruined my whole weekend, but we have a new one on the way now. I hear the older ones can bring good money; wish I would have known that BEFORE it got stolen. I was just trying to help a friend out and I would have had that car done by now if this hadn?t of happened, so the cars going to be down another week or so while we wait for the parts to show up.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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i like ur RED trailer, but i think i would have chosen black for a fishing combo, unless u plan to do the boat in red, also? just my 2-cents...

can u mention the evinrude shaft article's url? is it modle specific or for all?

nice Z car. i remember when the 240's first came out... 1967 or so? a friend got one on order... 2 mo later dealer called and offered him 400 more and he was paying list. it hadnt even come in, yet. he jumped at it and sold out. gosh, 400! mint 62 vettes went for $1500 -1800 and gas was... well u know. cheap!

thanks for sharing...

regards
lakester

I went with the red because my Jeep is red, I've actually thought of going with a John Deere theme, I've done that before on another project, and it looked pretty good, I like old vintage stuff, and I think it would be pretty easy to do with this boat, it's just some of the ideas I've had going through my head for paint and color, I’m pretty settled on the wood work, so I pretty much know how I want to do that, once I get the old paint stripped out and get the gluvit in, I'll have to get serious on color, it wouldn't take much to give it that John Deere look, a little yellow and green, and your out plowing the water.

As for the URL for the Evinrude stuff, I found the place to be quite informative, I printed off some of the info and followed the text as I worked through the conversion, and the same site has all sorts of maintenance stuff for the smaller Evinrude's.

I'm not sure how to do the links, or if I'm supposed to do the links so I'll do it like this www(dot)sschapterpsa(dot)com/ramblings/OMC-Converting_shafts(dot)htm <--- is this an acceptable way to do it?

If you go to the "ramblings" page, there's all sorts of stuff there that is useful, I have learned quite a bit from the place, the "ramblings" page is here www(dot)sschapterpsa(dot)com/ramblings/Ramblings(dot)html

TD, if I did this wrong. Let me know, maybe there's a better way to show the links I find?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I got ambitious today, with no cars to work on (for the moment) and being thanksgiving, and being able to stay home with no place inparticular to go, I decided to work on the boat a little bit, I got the rest of the wood out of it except for the transom, I'll try to get the transom removed tomorrow before work.

I'm getting closer to the paint work, but before I start the process of stripping, acid bathing, gluvit, ect. ect. take a look at the third picture.

the boats 37 years old, and that data plate is in pretty good shape, I'd like to remove it without damaging it so I can put it back on after the paint work is complete, or ...

maybe I can tape it up real good, do the oven cleaner stripping, acid bath, gluvit, prime and paint, then go over the top of the data plate sticker with a clear coat to preserve it, I'm just not sure if it's going to survive all the work it's going to be subjected to in the process of repainting the boat.

got any suggestions?

Happy Thanksgiving everyone

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I decided not to wait until tomorrow to get the transom out, I'll call this my Thanksgiving day wood removal marathon, now that all the woods out of it, next step .......Oven cleaner.

 

[tashasdaddy]

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you forgot the silly little piece of wood on the side. there is no removing that plate, cover it with several coats of tape. also that a clear picture of it so it can be read in the future incase of damage.

you are doing good.

 

[Fish n Geer]

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Glad to see you back at er Mr S.

 

[POLINGPOWER]

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hope you have lots of free time this week-end MR.STUART

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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you forgot the silly little piece of wood on the side. there is no removing that plate, cover it with several coats of tape. also that a clear picture of it so it can be read in the future incase of damage.

you are doing good.

That litle piece of wood is actully an aluminum plate that is riveted through the side of the hull, there's no taking that out, it will be painted the same color as the rest of the interior.

the temputures are in the mid 30's right now, so I'm hoping it will be a little warmer this weekend, I'm not sure how well the oven cleaner is going to work in these cooler temptures, ...looks like I'm going to find out though

I have some good clear pictures of that data plate, as well as the "klamath" emblem on the side of the boat, so it looks like the consenses here to is cover the data plate with tape and hope for the best?, I did try removing the old data plates on the trailer with a heat gun in an attempt to re apply them when I was done painting the trailer, but I wrecked the trailer data plates trying to get them off, so if I use the same method on the boat data plate, I'm guessing I'm goinmg to end up wrecking it to. ..(the spelling might be a little off in this post, can't seem to get the spell checker to work)

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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ok, I'm down to stripping the paint, so one last time before I venture into this, ....are we in agreement that I'm going to go with the oven cleaner? or does anyone one else have any other suggestions before I do this? if the temptures are warm enough, I'm going to do the oven cleaner on Saturday ....unless someone has a better idea before I get started ....last chance, speak up or the oven cleaner gets it.

 

[crazysammy]

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Make sure you read that back of the oven cleaner. some can have very bad side effects when used on aluminum. soo just be careful i would use some spray on paint remover

just my 2 cents

Crazy

 

[jspringator]

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Did you ground the heads off the rivet from the inside and push them out? Have you settled on a wood replacement yet?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Did you ground the heads off the rivet from the inside and push them out? Have you settled on a wood replacement yet?

I haven't removed any rivets yet, only nuts and bolts, but am going to drill out the rivets that Hold the oar locks in place before paint. On some of the bolts, I did grind off the heads and punched out the bolts with a center punch, on the wood work I drilled around the heads so I could have access to them with a pair of vice grips, and used a ratchet to get the nuts off, most the the bolts broke though, very few actually came out in one piece.

I haven't settled on the wood yet, I'm kind of taking this one step at a time, this is definitely a thread on a rebuild that's in real time, your seeing my progress as I go, so there's a lot of things were going to cover before this is through, the wood work, electrical, decals, polishing, ect, I figured I'd get into the individual processes as I go, kind of a step by step thing.

next up, paint removal, going to try to get that done this weekend.

as for the oven cleaner, from what reading I've done on the subject, it looks like I want to use easy off orderless, it's supposed to not be as strong as the original brand, and less caustic, and it's not supposed to be as harsh on the aluminum. that's about all I know about it at this point,

right now I'm getting concerned with the temperature, it's starting to get cold and I'm not quite sure how the oven cleaner and epoxy, paint, ect, is going to work in these cooler temperatures, I may be moving it to a friends garage for some of the work so I can do it in some warmer temperatures.

and who knows, maybe when this is done, I might tear down the starcraft for a rebuild, not that it really needs anything, but I do see where I could make some improvements to it, but that's going to be another project for another time.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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when I get the boat done, I'm going to want to install the depth finder, and maybe a few gauges, like volts, water temp or pressure, maybe an amp meter, and I wanted everything in a neat little spot not wanting to have the epth finder out in the open unless I'm using it, well. I think I came up with an idea, I was searching the internet tonight and found this page that had some ideas on it, and I snaged this picture, I think it looks pretty good and it keeps everything out of the way and protected, so I may do something like what's in the picture.

 

[Fish n Geer]

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That will work!

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I think by having a nice spot to put stuff like that, it will be out of the way, and I can lock it up if I leave the boat anywhere. I've had stuff stolen before, and having a little boat, with a little motor, makes me a little nervous

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I want to put some nav lights on the boat to, and maybe I'm starting to get carried away, I'm doing google searches for anything I can find for aluminum boats, just to get ideas.

have about navigation lights like these? ...(see picture)

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I've been busy again today, the temperatures are C-O-L-D, there was freezing rain through part of the day, but as dedicated as I am to my Little project, I was out in the driveway enduring it all, to work on the boat.

I've torn down the boat as fas as I'm going to go with it, and I spent quite a bit of time looking at the boat after I finished getting it tore down, I took off the oar locks, the bow cap, the 2 aluminum plates that were still in the back of the boat mainly because when I paint the interior, I didn't want to paint them to, I had thought of leaving them aluminum, and shinning them up, or polishing them, but the more I looked at the boat, the more ideas I got on how I want to finish it, about the only thing I'm settled on is the floor, everything else is still wide open as to how I want to do it, so here's where I'm going to ask you guys for your ideas.

I'll start with, what I want, or what's on my "must have" list, and let you take it from there with your ideas, and if you want to post pictures of what you think might look good, post them, the more the better, I'm kind of lost right now on how I want to do this, so here's my list of "gotta have it"

it's going to have a deep cycle marine battery
a minn kota trolling motor
a complement of gauges (I started another thread in the johnyrude forum about this looking for ideas)
stick steering
depth finder
and anything else I haven't thought of yet.

take a look at the picture of the back of the boat, now I'm not sure if I want to put it back together like it was before I tore it apart, or if I want to cover the entire back end of the boat (behind the back seat) and use that area for storage, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to want to stick the tank or battery back there, to much weight in the back of the boat, I'm looking for a good balance.

OK, your turn, give my your ideas.

the weather is supposed to warm up about mid week, so I'm going to weight till then to do the paint stripping, I'm going to try to strip and gluvit in one shot to get it done and over with, but time and weather will tell.

 

[dubnvento]

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Stuart, the more I look at your boat the more I think you should just strip the paint and leave it. From the pictures it looks pretty good. That just my thoughts. As for my Klamath, I don't think I have that option because the previous owner spray painted the camo. Well, good luck and keep us up to date like you are.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Stuart, the more I look at your boat the more I think you should just strip the paint and leave it. From the pictures it looks pretty good. That just my thoughts. As for my Klamath, I don't think I have that option because the previous owner spray painted the camo. Well, good luck and keep us up to date like you are.

I was thinking the same thing, although it doesn't really leak so to speak, other then a couple of drips here and there, my thought was that I'm going to have to seal the bottom of the hull after I remove the rest of the paint, and from what I understand, you can't leave the gluvit unpainted, which leads me to believe that I don't have much of a choice but to paint it.

on a side note, I just took my engine stand (for car engines) and converted it to an outboard stand, so I now have the outboard for the boat on the engine stand in the basement, it's going to work the way it is, but I can see where I can refine it and make it better, I don't see me doing any engine rebuilding in the near future, everything I have now runs good, (knock on wood, watch the darn jeep break down after saying that) so I took the engine stand and used it for the outboard.