boats on a budget

[Fish n Geer]

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Man that sux! Sorry to see this Mr S.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Man that sux! Sorry to see this Mr S.

sux big time, not sure of the insurance will cover flood damage or not, you know what I'll be doing this weekend, and it won't be working on the little boat, I guess witht he travel trailer, jack it up so when I hose it out, all the mud runs out the door?

for the boat, run the motor, try to clean it out as best I can? that "was" a really nice strong running outboard, not sure what I got now ....kinda makes a guy want to throw in the towell, I feel like for every step forward I make, I take two steps back

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I did a little work on the boat today, I took those sanding disks I got at Harbor Freight and tried them out, they work great!! there's going to be a little time involved getting the paint out, but nothing that's going to require a lot of elbow grease, I'm posting some pictures of my progress, I didn't get far today but I did get a little done.

on the back of the boat, in the first picture, there were a couple of steel plates bolted to it, and there was a lot of corrosion back there, the saning disk took it right now, I'll try to expline the pictures later, I need to go to work now.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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these are pictures of what I'm going to be using to strip the boat, I'll explain more on the disks when I have a little more time at the computer.

I think this is going to work pretty well, it's inexpensive and you can use a regular ol' drill

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Those disks I found at Harbor Freight, (I think I already mentioned that though) total cost was about 6 bucks for 5 of the prep disks, and the brass wheels, I'll use the brass wheels around the rivets, and the prep disks on the rest of it.

On what little I was able to get done today, the prep disks worked really well, it took the paint right off, I was pretty surprised at how easy the paint came off, and the prep disks look like scotchbirght pan cleaning pads, and the way the attachment wheel is built, I was able to get into the edges of the ribs and seams, so I think it's going to work out ok at getting the paint off, I'll tackle it one section at a time until all the paint is out, then give it a good pressure washing to clean everything out of it.

Once I'm ready to paint, I'll take it back to the car wash, do the acid bath to it, then go straight from there to the paint shop (not sure what I'm going do for a shop yet, but will find something) I'll pick up the gluvit for it next week. So it shouldn't be to long before it's painted up and ready for reassembly.

I took all the hardware off it and gave it to my nephew, he's got an industrial sandblasting machine, and he does a good job on smaller parts, he helped out with the trailer fenders and other miscellaneous parts that I was able to get off it, they came out good.

He called today and told me the parts are ready for pick up, he said they came out looking good, I'll post pictures of them when I get them back, he suggested that I paint them, he said there was a lot of pitting and damage to the bow cap and rear corner caps from the boat being drug around on the ground upside down over the years.

I don't think the boat would look to bad if I painted the caps, the following picture is of a boat I found on the net with painted caps, so I'm thinking that maybe if I painted them the same color as the interior paint, it might look pretty good.

 

[Warlord]

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You know you can use JASCO PREMIUM PAINT AND EPOXY REMOVER, to strip the paint off your boat. It is safe on aluminum, I use it on my motorcycles where someone had painted over some of the parts and also to remove the protective coating on the aluminum. Which on my motorcycle I can then buff out to an almost chrome like shine. If you are worried about getting it out of all the seams you can spray them with some brake cleaner or even a good blast from the hose. The stuff is water rinseable. Since you are going to powerwash it all anyways you should be fine, this is how I am going to do mine. Also I am a painting contractor so I know first hand that the Jasco won't hurt the aluminum. I have been using it for years with no problems. Usually I will brush on a decently heavy coat wait about 5 minutes and brush it again unless the paint is coming off already. Then just scrub it lightly with a fine scotchbrite type pad and a small toothbrush for hard to reach areas and around rivets. Beats sanding anyday. As far as priming I am going to use ZINSSER COVER STAIN OIL BASE PRIMER, you can get it in spray cans to make life easier if you don't have spray equipment. It won't take many cans to do the boat either. This stuff sticks to almost anything, no need to etch the metal at all. It says it dries in 30 minutes or so, but since you are painting it on a non-porous surface it is better to let it go over night. Try it on a small spot on you boat and the next day try scraping off with your fingernail, it won't scrape off. Hope this helps.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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You know you can use JASCO PREMIUM PAINT AND EPOXY REMOVER, to strip the paint off your boat. use ZINSSER COVER STAIN OIL BASE PRIMER, you can get it in spray cans to make life easier

I was going to go with a paint stripper but the more I read, the more I wondered if that would be a good idea or not, the way this boat is built, it's got a lot of exposed ribs inside, and I know the first time I pressure washed it, I used an engine cleaner on it to get the years of grime out of it, and that engine cleaner stuff seeped out from under the ribs for days.

the paint is coming off pretty easy so far with those scotch bright sanding pads, I'm going to try to get a little more done on it tomorrow, it's probably going to take me a while to get all the paint out of it, but like someone said in here earlier, I'm being so thorough with it that I might as well keep going, I haven't got that much further to go with it before I can start putting it back together, if I got to some spot where the paint just doesn't want to come off, I might try that, I suppose if I use the paint remover sparingly, it shouldn't cause to much of a problem.

is it possible to get some close up pictures of your bow cap, also a picture of what it looks like from under the front of it on the outside of the boat, I know mine was modified at some point and I think it had an eye bolt mounted in the front of the cap that had broken out, but it looks like they might have cut the front of the boat out a little bit to make room for the eye bolt. I'd like to see how yours is put together, it might give me some ideas.

do you have some sort of bow eye on yours warlord?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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warlord, your boat looks like it might be a little bit doifferent then mine inside, you were saying that it's a 10 footer? do you have a tag in it that looks like this one in the picture?

here's also a picture of what the bow cap looked like from the front before I welded it up, it had a hole right through the front of it where I'm sure some sort of eye bolt used to be

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I did a little more sanding on the boat today, it's going to take me forever at this rate, I may resort to paint stripper, it's coming off easy enough, but I'm trying to be thorough and get ALL the paint of it, I did get the paint stripped off around the data plate, I'm still wondering if I should tape it off and paint around it or try to remove it and relocate it when the boat is done, because that's where the instrument panel is going to go and that date plate is going to get covered up, I had thought about removing the plate, (which is actually a decal) and mount it on a plack that I can screw to the transom. the last picture of the rivet shows some paint still around it, I was going to try to leave the gunnel unpainted and polished aluminum, but that's where that rivet is, along with a whole lot of other rivets, so unless I can get the paint off, without hurting the rivets, it's going to end up getting painted, so I do think that some chemical paint remover is in order, at least for part of the boat.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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i did notice some deep pitted corision on the back, it was behind the transom wood, and also on the back of the boat where those 2 steel plates were, I'm guessing those steel plates had been on there for years, at one time they had wheels attached to them or so I was told, I'm not sure what to do with the holes that were left behind, I'll need to cover them with something, not sure what though.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I just figured out how to draw on these pictures, now I might be able to give more detail, the pictures show the holes, I circled them in red, those are the ones I want to cover up. got any ideas?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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curiosity is getting the better of me, this boat I'm working on is rated for a 20 horse outboard, I have a 10 horse motor for it and with that 10, it will do about 20 MPH with 1 person in it, with 3 people it slows down to about 15 MPH, and that seems plenty fast enough for me, but it is rated for a 20 HP.

got any idea of how it would do with a 20 on it? to me, it seems like it would be a bit unstable, but if I had a 20 horse outboard, I'd be trying it out, and I'm sure sooner or later, I'm going to find one ...so, I was just curious, wonder if a 20 on that boat would make my hair turn gray ..well grayer then it already is anyway.

 

[Warlord]

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Well here are some pics of the bow cap and bow of the boat. It looks like there was never a bow eye to begin with. If you look closely at the second pic you can see where someone drilled through to put in a ring or something to hook up to the winch. One more thing to fix.

I also do not have any tag or plate with any info on the boat at all. I do know its a 1962 Klamath from the registration and thats about it. Someone had repainted everything before at one time so I'm sure they removed it or whatever.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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thanks for the pics warlord, now I can see what mine was supposed to look like, I'll come up with something to fill the hole, I already fixed the bow cap, but that hole under it just kind of bugs me, I was going to put a bow handle on top of the cap to give me something for anchoring and tying off to the trailer, but I also want to ad navigation lights, and don't think I can have both, so still not sure about that yet, once I get the interior painted, then I start getting a little more serious about the rest of it.

what do you plan to do for the outside of yours? I had thought about polishing mine up, but I'm not sure how much work I want to put into it yet.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I'm headed off to the car wash with the paint stripper, I'll get photos, not sure how this is going to work, but I'm going for it anyway, be back after a while.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I got some aircraft paint stripper in a spray can, and went to work, I got most of the paint off it, but there's a few areas I'll have to go over with a sanding disk, I took a friend with me that knows some local body shops so while we were out, we paid a visit to one, and I asked the guy, "how much to paint it?" they have a paint booth, and a heated room, and I was told that if I bring it in on a Friday, he'll do it over the weekend and I can have it back on Monday, I have to supply the material, and a clear coat, he said he's got all sorts of stuff to put in the clear coat so I can have some sort of custom paint job in it, and he said he'd do it for 100 bucks, I was going to rent a garage to do it my self for 75, so to have it professionally painted for 100 I thought was a whale of a bargain, so that's what I'm going to do, I'm going to try to have it ready by next weekend, but time will tell, I still have some prep work to do, and since I have it tore down this far, I decided to go after all the little dings and dents, I'm going to try to get most of them out of it before it goes in for paint.

so now, I really seriously need to start thinking about a color, I was considering going with gun metal gray, but what's your ideas? I want something that's going to look good under and around the dark wood that's going to be in it.

give me some color ideas, what do you think will look good in it?

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I'm thinking if I go with gun metal gray, some dark stained wood, and having the gunnel's polished, that might look pretty good.

as far as an instrument panel is concerned, my brother is going to help me make a fiberglass panel for it to house the instruments, we'll mold it to fit the boat so it looks like, (I hope) it belongs.

 

[dubnvento]

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Looks like your getting close to paint stuart. Hope all goes well. I definetly would have it painted for $100 labor. A light gray would look good on the inside and maybe a bold color for above the waterline like blue or red and then polish everything below the waterline.

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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I don't think I can beat the 100 for painting it, I didn't get a chance to work on it yesterday, maybe I can get something done tomorrow

 

[Mr.Stuart]

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Looks like your getting close to paint stuart. Hope all goes well. I definetly would have it painted for $100 labor. A light gray would look good on the inside and maybe a bold color for above the waterline like blue or red and then polish everything below the waterline.

I think red on the outside would look good, I'll see if I can do some editing with paint shop or something and come up with an idea of what it would look like. My plan was to leave the outside aluminum, but the inside is going to look pretty nice when done, and I'm kind of starting to think that if I leave the outside unpainted, it may not look right. If I paint the outside, I wouldn't want to do it one solid color, I’ll like to be able to break it up a little bit and maybe do something two tone or something, I had considered painting it up like the Starcraft with the striping on the side that the Starcraft has got, but not orange, I'm not real fond of that color, but red? ...I think I could handle red. And it would match the car and boat trailer.

About the only thing I got done on the boat today was straightening out the bent mounting brackets, they were all wavy and warped.

what if I went with an off white or cream on the outside, with the red stripping like the starcraft but leave the gunnels polished aluminum?