bow pulpit questions

[Rumley]

hey everyone i was wondering if someone could help me out with some ideas on what to do with my bow pulpit. it has no anchor rollers and does not have an anchor locker. i use a 14lbs danforth anchor and i am looking for some way to keep the anchor mounted there so it is actually useful and easy to use.
i tried looking on google for some pics of what i can do but i cant seem to find anything that seems like it would work.
anyone who has a pulpit if they could post pics or ideas that would be much appreciated.
This is a pic of my pulpit.

 

[smokeonthewater]

Re: bow pulpit questions

in the pic, it looks like there is a rectangular hole behind the light.... If so, that is where the anchor roller belongs.... the rope locker should be under the bollard... If so, and if you want to, you can mount a windlass there....

 

[Rumley]

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im not sure what a bollard is... there is the hole for the rope to go through, but there isnt a rope locker though...
my other question is what kind of anchor roller to use?

 

[smokeonthewater]

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the bollard is the thing with the hole for the rope... The thing you would tie the rope to also while you are anchored... the area that the rope goes into under the bollard is called a rope locker.... usually you can access this area from the V berth inside the boat through a door or removable panel

 

[smokeonthewater]

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BTW... later on we'll get you used to calling it an anchor rhode but for now rope gets the point across

As for what sort of rope, that depends.... If you choose to install a windlass (anchor winch) you will use the rope (and chain) specified by the manufacturer.

 

[smokeonthewater]

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[shrew]

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That is a Samson Post in the picture. A Bollard is a bit different and typically a virtical post used to tie a boat to. The hole where the line goes through is a Hawse Pipe, which can come either with or without a cap. If you lookup all three you should find images for them and can see the differences.

 

[smokeonthewater]

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well terminology aside the item pictured often also has a hole through which rope can be fed in the back and a hole in the deck under it.... Doesn't work very well for stowing the anchor rhode at all but when removed makes a great place to mount a horizontal windlass

 

[Pez Vela]

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My boat's pulpit is similar to yours. It is rigged with the bow roller shown in the right hand column of pictures, second down from the top. You would need to relocate the item on the tip of your pulpit and do some cutting. This set up has worked well for me for over 25 years in all conditions.

 

[Rumley]

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There is no hole in what you are calling a "bollard". inside the cuddy there is the compartment that you were talking about with the hinged door to sore the rope (i am going to keep calling it rope, but i do have 200' of 1\2" rope and 8' of chain). here is a picture from the top
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thanks again to everyone posting

 

[Pez Vela]

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well terminology aside ...

With all due respect, helpful answers depend upon terminology. Referring to anchor line as rope, confusing a bollard with a deck (hawse) pipe, anchor rode with anchor rhode, all diminish the otherwise good advice you customarily provide.

 

[Lakes84]

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With all due respect, helpful answers depend upon terminology. Referring to anchor line as rope, confusing a bollard with a deck (hawse) pipe, anchor rode with anchor rhode, all diminish the otherwise good advice you customarily provide.

I'm still dealing with this as well. Since I was raised not far from Canada, I understand Rumley's terminology. We just had a thread on this last week I think. I'm highly educated, but sometimes you have to speak in "layman's terms" to folks who don't understand the terminology. I work in technology now and deal with this daily. Thanks for taken it easy on us new guys. I will learn the language someday though

See you on the lake

Joe

 

[chriscraft254]

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Here is a pic for you. Maybe having a better look at one will help.

This pic is without the anchor. Can see the roller better.

Another

 

[smokeonthewater]

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I didn't confuse anything.... I know what a deck pipe is I also know what a hawse pipe is (not the same thing).... The only possible confusion on my part was the bollard/sampson post..... a quick google search will show that a bollard can also be mounted on the deck of a boat/ship.... It appears to be a less common definition but it IS an accepted one....

Honestly I have no idea if rhode or rode is correct.... maybe both....

Now back to the subject at hand since the O/P does not have the knowledge YET to properly describe what he has and also does not have good pictures we have to play a bit of a guessing game here The O/P states "there is the hole for the rope to go through" I guessed that it was a hole in the bollard/sampson post.... He says otherwise so now we guess that he has a deck pipe.

O/P do a google search for "deck pipe" and see if you find a pic that matches what you have..... better yet, get us some better pictures of your boat.

You can use an anchor roller without a windlass also.... you simply pull by hand... secure the rhode and feed it through a deck pipe into the locker

 

[rbh]

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I think you are wanting to go and find a roller davit.
Stainless steel trough with a roller at the tip, you will need to relocate light at the end of the pulpit.
And I would suggest putting a brace from the tip of the pulpit (+-) back to the fiberglass at the bow as when the boat gets rockin in big waves there is alot of torque on the tip.
Got no "good idea" were to store the rhode, but got some "half azzed" ones though, good luck.

 

[Pez Vela]

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I will learn the language someday though

No one likes a smart astronaut, and I hope I didn't come off as one. I know just enough to know that I DON'T KNOW IT ALL ... that the same thing can often have different names ... and that there can be regional differences. It's all good. Posts sometimes go on for pages because of confusion over terminology. I have been corrected at times, and I appreciate it as a learning experience.

 

[chriscraft254]

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Op, you will need a davit roller and mount. There are many different styles. Top mount is what you will probably need. Also make below mount, which I prefer but may not work with your bow pulpit. By the looks of your picture, the pulpit appears to be an after thought along with the extended railing. You Probably don't have a anchor locker so you would need a deck pipe to add behind the pulpit. Here is a link to one that will work - http://www.iboats.com/Chain-Deck-Pipe/dm/*******.064587630--**********.426187390--view_id.237637

The anchor rope will drop down into your cabin throught the deck pipe. Honestly, kinda a PITA trying to get the rope to go through a deck pipe quikly. But it is probably better than what I assume you are doing now which is, carrying the anchor around or through the hatch on the bow deck. Make sure the bow pulpit has large backing plates and is bolted properly before you add anything to it. Good luck with your project.

I have two bow roller assemblies in my garge if your interested in one, let me know. They are brand new, stainless. If interested I will send you a pic, should be a good size for your boat. Pm me if interested.

 

[smokeonthewater]

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Here is a pic I just took of mine.... I don't have any chain YET.... I plan to add it in the future.

The windlass on mine is a vertical windlass... they are a bit more involved to mount than a horizontal.

Mine is mounted where my deck pipe used to be (I had to enlarge the hole)... the hole in front of the windlass under the knot in the ROPE is where a previous owner had a horizontal windlass..... That location was a poor choice because the rhode would not feed to the bottom of the locker but rather it would pile up inside the bow and tumble to the bottom.... that causes tangles.

 

[Rumley]

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Thanks again to everyone replying and sorry for the confusion, I just re read what I wrote and I can see why there is some confusion and I am not sure why my second picture didn't work. The bollard does not have a hole through it that I found, or anywhere on the bow. Inside my cuddy there is a compartment up at the very front with a hinge that looks like what you guys are explaining to store my rode.
I have many pictures from my survey, one which I tried to attach on my last post, which I will try again tonight as I am at work now.
254 that seems like what I would need to make it work on mine.
Sorry if some words make no sense right now, auto correct on my phone is quite annoying.
Thanks again to everyone

 

[Pez Vela]

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Just another picture using a different bow roller than 254's. The deck pipe simply would be installed over the top of your anchor locker. Since everything is very accessible, this should be a fun project.