Re: Breaking news!
Quote 12footer
They're called "conservatives"..
So sorry footer, didn?t mean to offend, should have made myself clearer .The group I was referring too was the
present administration, one could hardly call them conservatives according any definition of the word including your own.
< a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established>
lets take a look at that one,
preserve what is established=The Constitution established that the United States has three branches of government, legislative ,judicial and executive. They were established as co-equal, the President is misusing signing statements and it is an assault on the constitution.
The President has taken the practice to a new level, at over 100 signing statements, containing over 500 constitutional challenges in his attempts to mollify any legal restrictions on his actions. In other words he is ignoring the constitution.
To me that don?t look like preserving what has been established, looks like an assault on the constitution, but of course it is by the
Bush administration not any conservative group.
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the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change>-
President Bush has pretty well ignored a law that has been on the books since 1978 that states that wiretapping on U.S. citizens with out probable cause is prohibited without a warrant. I kinda think on the lines of Senator Arlen Specter when he says the President is
cherry picking the laws that he feels like obeying. I don?t know about you footer, but any law that has been on the books since 1978 ,to me looks like it should be considered ?
traditional? to me.
Here is another part of that ?
piece of paper ?called the
bill of rights. I get real nervous when anybody starts
cherry picking this bill. Must be the conservative in me working it self out.
<Amendment I
<Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. >
<Amendment II
<A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. >
<Amendment III
<No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.>
< Amendment IV
<The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. >
<Amendment V
<No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. >
<Amendment VI
<In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense. >
<Amendment VII
<In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. >
<Amendment VIII
<Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. >
<Amendment IX
<The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. >
<Amendment X
<The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.>
