Bringing back that ol' Shine

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oceansbreeze

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Hey fellow boaters..

I've been away from the iboats forums now for about 3 years, did the divorce thing, and now getting life back on track.... last time I was here I was posting and researching new boats. thankfully I never did buy one, I would have lost it in the divorce!! :)

Anyway, I recently came upon a deal that was too good to pass up. I purchased a 1987 Wellcraft Elite 220 bow rider. The condition is beautiful. The original owners kept it in a boat house on a boat lift, and the engine appears to be impeccably maintained. The interior is immaculate, no rips in the fabric anywhere....

Now I've been reading all the posts I can about cleaning up the hull, I want to give it back it's shine. I took some photos, and posted them on my website - plus the specs I found on the Wellcraft site (thanks to a post I read here)

Mind you, she is a little bit muddy, it was raining the day I towed it to my parents place, until I can borrow a truck to bring it the last 150km's to my house.

---- link removed - not valid anymore ---- 08/19/2010

I am looking for some advice on bringing back the shine, based on what you can see in the pics. The bottom is hardly has a scratch on it. The faded blue is where I wanted to focus my attention.. Do I really need to "polish" the white part of the bottom of the hull? Are there any benefits to this?

From what I read, give it a wipe down with lacquer/thinner, and some wet 1000 grit sandpaper or so... but I'd really like to have somebody's opinion once they look at the photos, and tell me what they think.

Also, off topic for this thread, but I'm gathering up the safety equipment I need for this boat, my last boat was only 18 feet, the regulations are a bit different once it gets over 20 feet. I require a ladder when the freeboard is over 1'8". Is freeboard purely side measurement, or does the swim deck count for this, which would be within regulation height, and therefore not require a ladder?

I am so glad to be back on this site and hoping to get out on the lake soon! Thanks in advance for any input!

Bruce
 
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woosterken

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Re: Bringing back that ol' Shine

Mark,
check out Mark Mullen's article in shareaproject.com
('65 niagara by Mark Mullen)
hope this helps

woosterken
 
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Re: Bringing back that ol' Shine

does not look that bad, id skip the sand paper all together. wash the boat, then wash the boat again "scrubbing with a solution Muriatic acid and water, then get 3m rubbing compound and compound the ENTIRE boat, then use 3m liquid wax polish and buff... then stand back and admire the shine.
 

thedanimal

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Re: Bringing back that ol' Shine

86 Wellcraft elite.

first use the 3m rubbing compound and a good buffer or a lot of elbow grease.
after it shines, rub a light layer of Vaseline into it, let it sit for a couple of days, in the sunlight would be better. then wipe off the vaseline residue with clean paper towels, then immediately use a good wax..... i didn't believe it would work as well as it does..... looking back on it, try a small spot with the vaseline before you waste your money on the 3m stuff. .....let us know.
 

Yacht Dr.

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Welp .. Most everyone here knows what im gonna say...so I wont say it.....again.....

Search the forums...

YD.

PSCoughVaselinesuckscough ..
 

6meter

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My boat is dark cherry originally. It turned grey. Dry sanded 600, 800, 1000, then wet with 1200 and 1500. Machine buffed the waxed. Looks almost new. Probably could have used a little bit more 800-1000 sand in places
 

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oceansbreeze

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Re: Bringing back that ol' Shine

I appreciate the input from thedadmiral.... even though this is a 2 year old thread...

to the Yacht Dr - next time, maybe don't bother replying, you added nothing of value to this thread... this is the kind of comments that make newbies thnik everybody here has an attitude...

When people search for their keywords, they may find this thread in the future, and thanks to Isaacm1986's post, they will find the info during their travels...
 

SDSeville

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Re: Bringing back that ol' Shine

OK Oceansbreeze, what method did you go with and how did it work?
 

Yacht Dr.

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Hello all .. and Oceans...

Actually I thought that my post had something to give..my opinion that do it right or your in for a hurting in the long run.. ( you know..some peeps want it looking good right now but without the hard work :) ).

I cant see how my simple reply would generate a perception for newbies to think Everyone here has an attitude ( It just me that has one ;) ) .

So for those looking on .. I would say DO NOT put Vasaline on your boats.. ( as I have said in the past ).

YD.
 

SDSeville

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I am not asking you Yacht Dr. I know your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I get the right way and wrong way thing. However, I have a 1986 Sea Ray that I paid $1,200 for. I had to sell my newer boat and buy this one just to stay on the water. The main thing for me is that it is structurally sound and that it runs well. In this economy, not everyone has the time or money to properly "restore" their paint. If I did, I would probably have a newer boat.

For a boat like mine, Vaseline and wax every couple of months makes all the sense in the world. If I can turn my embarrassing pink faded gel coat back to red, even temporarily, for less than $10 and an hour of work, it makes sense to me.

As Oceansbreeze so eloquently put it "Yacht Dr - next time, maybe don't bother replying".
 

skargo

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I 2nd the vaseline! It's been suiting me well for 2 seasons now. :D
 

Isaacm1986

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As Oceansbreeze so eloquently put it "Yacht Dr - next time, maybe don't bother replying".

I completely disagree. Although Yacht Dr and I have clearly disagreed on the vaseline issue. I know he is one of the best contributors to this site and I respect his opinions a lot.

The 2 links to other threads on this topic I have posted voice Yacht Dr. opinions quite clearly and the way he restores the shine certainly does work. Yes it is more labor intensive, but It does work and does not need to be repeated very often.

Thanks Yacht Dr. for your voice on this forum site.
 

paultjohnson

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Ive had great luck with Fiberglass Color Restorer and sealer by Seabrite Wash well 1st ... I like Slimey Grimey-its oxalic acid Took all that white oxidation from sittn in the sun 86 Thundercraft Restored that deep dark blue- creamy liquid-non abrasive
 

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Hi everyone. I am new to boating and new to this site. I always thought I would buy something like a Cruiser, but the money is not there at this time in my life. HOWEVER...I have found a 1972 Fabuglas tri hull for sale, $1600. This includes the trailer and a rebuilt 85HP engine. Can anyone give me some advice? the boat is in excellent condition and the price is so tempting. This will be my first boat. I want to run it on some small lakes, just goofing around. Can anyone give me some advice about this type of boat? Do you think it is a good deal? THANKS! I appreciate your input. ~~NewBoatGal
 

JB

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Re: Bringing back that ol' Shine

Hi everyone. I am new to boating and new to this site. I always thought I would buy something like a Cruiser, but the money is not there at this time in my life. HOWEVER...I have found a 1972 Fabuglas tri hull for sale, $1600. This includes the trailer and a rebuilt 85HP engine. Can anyone give me some advice? the boat is in excellent condition and the price is so tempting. This will be my first boat. I want to run it on some small lakes, just goofing around. Can anyone give me some advice about this type of boat? Do you think it is a good deal? THANKS! I appreciate your input. ~~NewBoatGal

Ahoy, Gal.

Welcome to iboats. :)

You really need to start a new thread with your question. It is off the topic of this shine squabble and off topic for this particular forum. I suggest that you go to the Boat Topics forum ^^^..

Good luck. :)
 

60Clipper

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Re: Bringing back that ol' Shine

Ok, first let me acknowledge this is a very touchy subject for some people. Let me also say everyone is entitled to their opinion. There are many ways to skin this cat so to speak and just bashing each others opinions are not professional or constructive. When new boaters are looking for advice or an opinion they search the net and forums for help, like this one. They should find viable options to what they want to do, NOT bickering about who's idea is better and slamming each others posts.

Enough said about that. For what it's worth here is my input on the wet sand, rub and buff vice vaseline.

This is before the wet sanding (400-2,000), rubbing, polishing and wax.
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This is after, yes that's my Grand Prix 8 feet away, reflecting in the gelcoat.
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Obviously I'm for the extra work of wetsanding and buffing. Just my opinion, take it for what's worth.

Bob
 

Woodonglass

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Well this oughta REALLY FAN the FLAMES! Clean a portion of your boat as clean as you can get it, pour some Penetrol (Get it @ Lowes or HD) on a rag, rub it in, and Buff it. You'll like it! YD won't!!

I'm just sayin...:D
 

SDSeville

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I tried the Vaseline on a test spot and it looks great. Check out the pics on the last page of my thread.
 
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Poliglow. Clean with oxilic acid first (Poli-ox), then apply six thin coats of poliglow. You will have the whole job done in about 90 minutes and you will like it.
Again YD won't. ;)
 
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