cable & pully steering tension springs

[charliedaubitz]

are they avilable on this site, I looked for them and had no luck. I need 2

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

right here: http://www.iboats.com/Tiller_Rope_S...21991636--**********.969591000--view_id.39682

this may help also.
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=200994

 

[BillP]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

are they avilable on this site, I looked for them and had no luck. I need 2

Just so you don't get surprised...marine patrol officers MAY give you a ticket for operating with unsafe equipment if using spring and cable steering. It's what a Florida Wildlife officer (Brevard County, Fl) told me last yr...he DOES give tickets for those steering systems.

bp

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

i ran a 50 hp rude for years with it. just sold the boat, never had a problem with them.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

I'd call the Officer's bluff on it (in court), if my cable/pulley system was in a well maintained condition. I boated in Brevard county for many, many years and was checked many times by the FMP in multiple boats with pulley/cable steering. Ditto for the Wildlife officers. Believe me, they would have given me a ticket if they could have. There does not appear to be anything in the statutes governing steering systems in vessels:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/in...tm&StatuteYear=2008&Title=->2008->Chapter 327
Sometimes these guys make up laws that do not exist. It is readily fixed up with a trip to court. There was a FMP guy in N. Brevard that would write tickets for anything but a pristine life jacket. The law reads that they must be in serviceable condition, which is a rather low bar. It means "able to be used", not "totally unsoiled". I won this and a few more cases where they overextended themselves into making legislative decisions. The downside is that you become a great big target for getting hassled.....

 

[Ned L]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

Nothing wrong with cable steering IF properly installed. Make sure ALL the turning point and endpoint hardware is THROUGH BOLTED, no screws! (pullies and "U" brackets that hold the spring tensioners). If one of these pieces of hardware pull out, the outboard can instantly and uncontrolably flop over to one side & start spinning the boat in tight circles (sometimes right over the people that were just thrown overboard when it went into the tight turn).

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

very correct, they have to be maintained properly.

 

[Ned L]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

Yes, must be maintained also (thank you), but it is such a simple system that the 'maintainance' is quick & easy.

 

[byacey]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

A cable steering system is a lot less prone to problems than the rack system long term. I have never seen a seized cable system.

 

[BillP]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

I'd call the Officer's bluff on it (in court), if my cable/pulley system was in a well maintained condition. I boated in Brevard county for many, many years and was checked many times by the FMP in multiple boats with pulley/cable steering. Ditto for the Wildlife officers. Believe me, they would have given me a ticket if they could have. There does not appear to be anything in the statutes governing steering systems in vessels:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/in...tm&StatuteYear=2008&Title=->2008->Chapter 327
Sometimes these guys make up laws that do not exist. It is readily fixed up with a trip to court. There was a FMP guy in N. Brevard that would write tickets for anything but a pristine life jacket. The law reads that they must be in serviceable condition, which is a rather low bar. It means "able to be used", not "totally unsoiled". I won this and a few more cases where they overextended themselves into making legislative decisions. The downside is that you become a great big target for getting hassled.....

The reason I mentioned it is because one particular officer went ballastic when I asked about these systems being legal or not. Anyway, I started boating in Brevard Co in 1956 and things are way different now compared to yrs gone by. Speaking of way back when, a FMP with boat on a trailer in tow gave me a ticket for drag racing in a car and it stood in court...my wallet got lighter by $200...but everyone except the judge told me they couldn't write those tickets. Regardless, state F&W officers do have the authority to ticket for unsafe operation and unsafe equipment. The law doesn't have to specify cable systems aren't legal for the officer to write tickets and win in court. If you do challenge in court the officer has the entire boating industry backing the unsafe equipment side and nobody backing the cable systems are safe side.
bp

 

[BillP]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

A cable steering system is a lot less prone to problems than the rack system long term. I have never seen a seized cable system.

From what I've seen the number one failure with cable systems is wire failure...fatigue from work hardening or corrosion. There is NO way to eyeball fatigue from work hardening. You find out when it breaks. The only way to keep it safe is change the wire often.

Long term on a cable/pully system is under 5 yrs of frequent use without changing the wire...and 5 yrs is pushing the safety envelope. Long term with even a cheap modern system is at least 10 yrs of frequent use without touching it...many of the better systems go 20+ yrs. When a cable system breaks it usually lets the motor turn hard over in the opposite direction. At high speed it can throw people out of the boat. At low speed it can make you crash into the dock. When a modern system breaks it usually shows slop and hard turning a long before failure that will cause an accident.

bp

 

[abj87]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

I changed out the wire on my Lyman for a high strength low stretch rope. I also swapped out the original pulleys for harken ball bearing units.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

The FMP can write traffic citations, since they can enforce any law on land and water. They must be able to produce documentation that they have current traffic enforcement training before some charges will stick, but you ain't getting away with a drag racing charge under any circumstances.
If I got a ticket for a cable and pulley system that was well maintained, I would almost guarantee that I would win, since they always assign some low-ranking assistant to try the case, he has 500 other ones, and has usually never read the applicable law. They always offer a plea deal, but if during the 5 miinutes they chat with you you convince him that you may just embarrass him in court, they may drop the case. But, you can draw a hard-*** judge that doesn't really care what you say. Then you're toast.

 

[Adjuster]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

Any way to hook the kill switch up to the cable?

 

[Ned L]

Re: cable & pully steering tension springs

No easy way that I can think of right now.