Can't find out what size this prop is

ECVCHAMP

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My Brother-in-law has a 79 21' Sleekcraft with an Merc 260, SEI106. The prop on there now is made by Michigan Wheel. On the hub it is stamped MICHIGAN SMC 378 CUP. He is happy with the performance but it is pitted and bent and needs to be relaced and I can't find any info on the size. Also it is Aluminum.
 

hwsiii

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Re: Can't find out what size this prop is

champ, that prop is mwc version of the Mercury Black Max 48-36012A 15.5 X 18" aluminum cupped prop.


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ECVCHAMP

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Re: Can't find out what size this prop is

Now I'm confused, shop is telling me it is 15.5 x 21p.
 

hwsiii

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Re: Can't find out what size this prop is

ECVCHAMP, I am sorry I typed it wrong, I show it as a 19" pitch in my database.

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But I would go with the prop shop. as I am sure they ran it on there pitch block to get the correct measurement.


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ECVCHAMP

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Re: Can't find out what size this prop is

ECVCHAMP, I am sorry I typed it wrong, I show it as a 19" pitch in my database.

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But I would go with the prop shop. as I am sure they ran it on there pitch block to get the correct measurement.


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hwsiii, thanks. I called MPC and they confirmed what you said 19P. The shop I refered to was just a boat repair shop not a prop shop and I think that was just off the top of his head.
 

hwsiii

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Re: Can't find out what size this prop is

ECVCHAMP, thank you very much for your reply, as it is very nice to have my databases information confirmed.
If he likes that particular prop and it works very well on his boat then he needs to be careful if he decides to replace it with just another prop of the same pitch, because this particular prop is Regressive pitch and MOST aluminum props are NOT.


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The Mayor

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Re: Can't find out what size this prop is

Hello hwsiii.Im the brother in law he speaks of.:) What does regressive mean? And I am switching to stainless. Any suggestions. Thanks for your time.
 

hwsiii

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Re: Can't find out what size this prop is

Mayor, a regressive pitch prop is always a higher pitch on the leading edge and a lower pitch on the trailing edge, whereas a progressive pitch prop has a lower pitch on the leading edge and higher pitch on the trailing edge.
But after reading some numbers on your boat, my opinion is you will be better off with a progressive pitch prop.

You might try reading this for a better understanding of changing props for better performance, and for the major differences between aluminum props and stainless steel.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=369057

Welcome to the forum, I will try to help you as much as I can but without more information no one can help you, and I will tell you I need more information than anyone else. But if you would like my help fill this form out and I will help you as much as humanly possible, if you would prefer to not go to this much trouble there are other people who will be here and gladly help you. My expectations are that you are willing to expend as much time and energy as I will to find a better prop for your boat.

Just copy this form to your computer and paste it into a word processing program and fill it out, then paste it into your post or just use the numbers for reference in your reply and type in your information.

Iboats Boat and Motor Info

1. Year, make and model of boat

2. Length, width and base weight of boat, look for boat decal on back of boat

2a.What is the maximum recommended HP for your boat

3. Number of people and gallons of gas normally on boat

4. What do you use the boat for

5. Is it a Deep Vee and if so how many degrees of Deadrise

6. Year, manufacturer and model of motor

7. HP and gear ratio of outdrive IMPORTANT
If you don?t know the gear ratio, you need to pull the plugs out of the motor and put a piece of tape across the prop and the lower unit and then cut it between the prop and the housing then do the same thing on the flywheel and turn the motor until the tape lines up with each other on the prop, it is easier if two people do this, so one can watch the prop while the other counts the revolutions of the motor

8. Manufacturer?s recommended Wide Open Throttle (WOT) range

9. Anti-ventilation Plate height above the bottom of the transom of boat if it is an outboard in inches, use a straight edge or a board under the keel and sticking out to the anti ventilation plate for a reference, and take about 4 pictures for us to see.

AntiventilationPlateStraightEdge-1.jpg


10. Is it a bass boat or does it have a pad bottom and is it on a bracket, if so how far does the bracket extend from the stern.

11. Does it have a hydrafoil, dolefin, whale tail or trim tabs and is the motor on a bracket, and if so how far back from the stern is the bracket

12. Manufacturer, model, diameter, pitch, number of blades and whether SS or aluminum props.
IMPORTANT
1.
2.
3.

13. WOT RPM and speed from your current prop and how much gas and how many people were in the boat for the test data and is the speed by GPS. Make sure you trim the prop up until it starts ventilating and then just trim in until it quits ventilating. If you do not have a tach you can buy a Tiny Tach for less than $ 50
RPM ___________ Speed (GPS)___________ No. of people ____________ Gal. Gas ________

14. Are you at sea level or a higher elevation, give us the elevation in feet __________

15. Has your motor been tuned up lately and have you checked that the carburetor butterfly is opening all the way by only using the control on the console, checked compression, looked at the plugs and checked spark, is the bottom of the boat clean and barnacle free, and have you checked the Tachometer against a mechanics tach, all of the foregoing could be the reason your prop is not attaining full RPM.

16. How long has this prop been on the boat and why, at this time, do you think it is the wrong prop.

17. Does the prop show any damage that you can see

18. What problems are you trying to cure or what are you looking for the boat to do that it is not doing the way you think it should or to your expectations

19. If you are trying to attain a better cruising speed and fuel savings or trying to attain a faster speed I will want you to take your boat and run it with 1 or 2 people and give me the RPM and speed readings starting at 3,000 RPM in 500 RPM increments all the way to WOT.
1. 3000 RPM
2. 3500 RPM
3. 4000 RPM
4. 4500 RPM
5. 5000 RPM
6. 5500 RPM
7. 6000 RPM

REMEMBER, The prop I recommend will be NO better than the information you give me.​

The only thing I ask of you is to come back and give me a report of WOT RPM and speed for my database.


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