Car Tires on a Trailer?

sschefer

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Ironhill, food for thought. I once went to radials because of a good deal I found. I experienced sway with them. I went back to bias ply trailer rated and the problem went away. This was on a little 14' single axle and I think they were just 12" rims. Tiny little buggers that spun really fast and ran at 50lbs of pressure.
 

ironhill

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Thanks - yes as mentioned I have decided for performance characteristics to go with trailer tires.

The softer sidewalls on radials may mitigate the up and down movement by providing more cushioning but may worsen the side to side sway.

Again from a layman's point of view the lateral being the more dangerous of the two.

I am glad I asked!
 

dingbat

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Here are the regulations on tires requirements per National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Department of Transportation.

So, where exactly is does it say that you must use trailer tires and where excatly does it say it is illegal or unsafe to use anything but trailer tires on the trailer? :rolleyes:


Sec. 571.120 Standard No. 120; Tire selection and rims for motor
vehicles other than passenger cars.

S1. Scope. This standard specifies tire and rim selection requirements and rim marking requirements.

S2. Purpose. The purpose of this standard is to provide safe operational performance by ensuring that vehicles to which it applies are equipped with tires of adequate size and load rating and with rims of appropriate size and type designation.

S3. Application. This standard applies to multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, buses, trailers, and motor cycles, to rims for use on those vehicles, and to non-pneumatic spare tire assemblies for use on those vehicles.

S4. Definitions. All terms defined in the Act and the rules and standards issued under its authority are used as defined therein.Rim base means the portion of a rim remaining after removal of all split or continuous rim flanges, side rings, and locking rings that can be detached from the rim.

Rim size designation means rim diameter and width.
Rim diameter means nominal diameter of the bead seat.
Rim width means nominal distance between rim flanges.
Rim type designation means the industry or manufacturer's designation for a rim by style or code.
Weather side means the surface area of the rim not covered by the
inflated tire.

S5. Requirements.

S5.1 Tire and rim selection.

S5.1.1 Except as specified in S5.1.3, each vehicle equipped with pneumatic tires for highway service shall be equipped with tires that meet the requirements of Sec. 571.109, New pneumatic tires, or Sec. 571.119, New pneumatic tires for vehicles other than passenger cars, and rims that are listed by the manufacturer of the tires as suitable for use with those tires, in accordance with S4.4 of Sec. 571.109 or S5.1 of Sec. 571.119, as applicable, except that vehicles may be equipped with a non-pneumatic spare tire assembly that meets the requirements of Sec. 571.129, New non-pneumatic tires for passenger cars, and S8 of this standard. Vehicles equipped with such an assembly shall meet the requirements of S5.3.3, S7, and S9 of this standard.

S5.1.2 Except in the case of a vehicle which has a speed attainable in 3.2 kilometers of 80 kilometers per hour or less, the sum of the maximum load ratings of the tires fitted to an axle shall be not less than the gross axle weight rating (GAWR) of the axle system as specified on the vehicle's certification label required by 49 CFR part 567. Except in the case of a vehicle which has a speed attainable in 2 miles of 50 mph or less, the sum of the maximum load ratings of the tires fitted to an axle shall be not less than the gross axle weight rating (GAWR) of the axle system as specified on the vehicle's certification label required by 49 CFR part 567. If the certification label shows more than one GAWR for the axle system, the sum shall be not less than the GAWR corresponding to the size designation of the tires fitted to the axle. If the size designation of the tires fitted to the axle does not appear on the certification label, the sum shall be not less than the lowest GAWR appearing on the label. When a tire subject to FMVSS No. 109 is installed on a multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, bus, or trailer, the tire's load rating shall be reduced by dividing by 1.10 before calculating the sum (i.e., the sum of the load ratings of the tires on each axle, when the tires' load carrying capacity at the recommended tire cold inflation pressure is reduced by dividing by 1.10, must be appropriate for the GAWR).
 
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Re: Car Tires on a Trailer?

Coming back from a tournment had two blow outs on a single axle trailor. Went to a local Walmart and they didnt have trailor tires that would fit it so we put car tires on it. The first two sets would just go flat as soon as the weight of the boat was put back on them. Finally found a set that would support the weight but looked like it was low on air. But it got us home. And then lasted a trip from texas to california. I wouldn't recommend it though cause the trailor had a lot of sway in it. My opion it is worth the extra 30-40 dallors for trailor tires.
 

Rellik546

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do they make a trailer tire that lasts as long as a car tire without special maintenance, such has taking the wheels off if it is gonna sit longer than a week, spray with 303 aerospace protectant, storing them inside during the winter, covering them so they arent in direct sunlight. I dont mind spending extra to buy a quality tire...esp since i throw away a brand new trailer tire with less than 300 miles on it every 2 years because of rot....ITS A JOKE! and at 100+ bux per set of tires every couple of years. youd be better off spending 300 and having it last several years and do less maintenance. DOES SUCH TRAILER TIRE EXIST? if so please PM me :)
 

smokeonthewater

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I have a set of interco trailer tires that are over 5 years old and still same as new and also a set of maxxis tires that are about the same age and also as good as new....

If your tires are dryrotted in 2 years then you are likely being sold 10 year old tires as new tires
 

Rellik546

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smokeonwater, 2 things, 1 i love your boat, its beautiful and 2 how can you tell how old a tire is? i know some have time stamps but how do they read? is it part of a serial number, or is there an actual date(ive never looked) and who is a reputable tire dealer, all the discount places sell junk car tires...at least so i have learned, use to know a kid who worked at one, they said they would get like the grade B tires, or something like that
 

ironhill

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I do not want to restart the debate - I have already decided to go with trailer specific tires for their performance characteristics.

However in one of my earlier posts I said I would check with some friends that are LEO's.

I spoke with one this week and he contacted a friend of his who is in the traffic division and co-incidently just came off a stint conducting on-road inspections. In my jurisdiction, Ontario, there is nothing in the Highway Safety Act that requires only trailer tires to be installed on trailers.

The inspectors focus on weight ratings and tire condition to decide on tire safety

This is not to say trailer tires do not have superior features that help them perform better, that other jurisdictions have the same regulations or that you should do it.

As I mentioned for my purposes I will just go with the trailer tires, not because I have to but because I want to.

I only wanted to report back on what I said I would look into.................. YMMV.
 

'78 Crusader

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Re: Car Tires on a Trailer?

I do not want to restart the debate - I have already decided to go with trailer specific tires for their performance characteristics.

However in one of my earlier posts I said I would check with some friends that are LEO's.

I spoke with one this week and he contacted a friend of his who is in the traffic division and co-incidently just came off a stint conducting on-road inspections. In my jurisdiction, Ontario, there is nothing in the Highway Safety Act that requires only trailer tires to be installed on trailers.

The inspectors focus on weight ratings and tire condition to decide on tire safety

This is not to say trailer tires do not have superior features that help them perform better, that other jurisdictions have the same regulations or that you should do it.

As I mentioned for my purposes I will just go with the trailer tires, not because I have to but because I want to.

I only wanted to report back on what I said I would look into.................. YMMV.

Thanks for the update bro!

I debated this last fall and decided to go with trailer tires too and I'm glad I did.
 
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