Chances of getting lost

ED21

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Re: Chances of getting lost

I can say I've never had a fear of getting lost.<br />But I have done it a few times. :rolleyes:
 

18rabbit

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Originally posted by swist:<br /> ... He did have a sextant and I'm sure very good celestial navigation skills. They still sell these things and I am told they can be quite accurate if you know how to use them ...
In theory, a sextant can be very accurate. In reality, they are off by degrees. They work on the assumption the earth is round. It isn’t, hence the need for a datum used by GPS to account for anomalies in the earth as a perfect sphere.<br /><br />They are accurate enough to get you near where you want to be. After that you figure out where the port is. In Christopher’s day, they sometimes had to sail up and down the coast to find the port, but the sextant got them to the general area of the coast.
 

umblecumbuz

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Joe #G's quote:
Columbus thought he had found India, when in fact he was less than halfway there.
He set off from the Med, not far from my own boating grounds, so he did well. Local fishermen are periodically in the news here because they've gone out twenty miles or so and got lost - found a few days later after a search - thought their mobile phones would work well enough so they didn't bother with buying a vhf!<br /><br />My turn next.
 

phatmanmike

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Re: Chances of getting lost

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<br /><br />PROBLEM........SOLVED
 

grimreaper

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Sonny,<br />1st things first, How big is your boat?<br />2nd, Get a good chart, GPS, and a VHF radio.<br />3rd, learn how to use them. Now Go for it! check the weather, tides, supplies, and gas. untie your boat and go. If you totally get lost, call. someone will be in the area to assist you. Make sure you have a tow service, (Seatow, Boatus, etc). Life is to short to worry. enjoy it crusing! Thats why you got a boat, Right? Just do it! Just remember, only go out to you have a half of tank of fuel! (unless you like to paddle)! Your not in the middle of the ocean, you can always piggyback home!! Have Fun Captain!!!
 

rwidman

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I'm going to assume that as a first time boater you don't have a boat big enough to go into "open water". You don't say where in Maryland you are from but I boat mostly on the Chesapeake Bay out of Sandy Point. It's right next to the Bay Bridge, a very large bridge that can be seen for miles. You go out and turn either left or right, turn around to come back. It's hard to get lost. ;) <br /><br />Seriously, you have to start slow and get some experience. I have a good chart plotter, it's one of the best investments I ever made for the boat.<br /><br />I remember hearing a boater calling the Coast Guard one morning because he had gotten lost and ran out of gas. He had no idea where he was. He was able to tell them the heading on his compass but that's not any help at all unless you can identify what it's pointing to. Then when they connected him with a tow service he declined because he didn't have enough money. I guess someone eventually found him and towed him in. :rolleyes:
 

Boatist

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I and not sure Sonny K9 has read any of this but it has been a good thread.<br /><br />Today I have a 12 volt Loran C and a portable battery powered GPS and soon will buy a 12 volt fixed GPS. Also have a 12 volt VHF and a battery powered VHF. <br /><br />Still with all the electronics something can happend to knock them out or could have a voltage failure on the boat. So one other thing I do is log each waypoint in a book. This is for two reasons. 1: To log additional information, like great June fishing spot or shallow water 200 yards to the south west, or main shiping channel watch for large ships and subs. 2: Second thing I log in all my routes is compass heading to next waypoint and compass heading to last waypoint. 3: I log the water depth as a double check. Here I also list distance between the waypoints. This way if something fails where I have no GPS or Loran C I still have the compass heading and distance to make it in on my own. This is real easy to get as every GPS or Loran C I have seen has had a calculator to calculate compass heading and distance between waypoints. For each port I may have two or three main routes I take to get in and out.<br /><br />Even in clear nice weather I follow these main routes in and out of the harbor. Sometimes I have the crew run the boat so they know how to do it. Never know when someone may have problem that prevents them from running the boat. Reason I follow these main routes on nice clear days is to get practice useing the equipment so the day when have to use the equipment to get in it is routine and you have confidence that it works. It also lets me check that compass heading I wrote in my log and make sure it is right.<br /><br />Some areas we may not go every year but with the route wrote in the book can just look in the book and find the route to that place. Key in the route number and follow the GPS to the waypoints that will take you to that location. With use on every trip it becomes routine and easy for that day when you can not see more than a few feet and everything seems wrong.
 

umblecumbuz

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Agree completely with Boatist. I would never rely on the high-tech machine that Myoutboards pictures up there. <br /><br />Crossing to Sicily on commercial jetfoil - only a 60 mile trip - and was invited up on bridge. Captain said, without any prompting 'Every few trips we get hailed by a yachtsman or gin palace to give them a fix, because their batteries have died on their gps.'<br /><br />Belt and braces ... every time.
 
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