changing transmission gearing

tgissel

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My boat a 1968 Marinette came with two gear options 1:1 velvet drive and a 1.52:1. I am looking for a calculator or personal opinions on changing from the 1:1 with a 14x10 3 bladed prop to a 1.52:1 with a 16x15 three bladed propeller. What kind of performance speed and gph will there be?

Thanks, Thad
 

tgissel

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Re: changing transmission gearing

Thanks for the quick reply I am asking what the change will be. I have found that calculator , I was looking for something where I can enter in the boats weight as well as the diameter of the propeller.
 

Silvertip

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Re: changing transmission gearing

You did not indicate what performance issue you are trying to solve but I suspect whatever money you spend will be a waste. You are changing two elements of the drive system to put you back to where you were in the first place. When your boat was built, the manufacturer selected a gear set that matched the power output of the engine. There is logic in that to swing a larger diameter prop with more pitch you need to increase the gear ratio. This speeds up the engine but it does not automatically translate into a faster or more economical boat. With the 10P prop you currently have, each revolution of the engine "theoretically" moves the boat forward 10 inches. So at 4500 engine rpm (ignoring prop slippage) the boat would move forward 3750 feet. That translates to about 42 miles/hour with the 1:1 drive ratio. At 4500 RPM, a 15P prop at a 1.5:1 ratio would mean that at 4500 RPM the actual prop speed is 3425 RPM. 3425 prop rpm translates to 48 miles/hour. So theoretically you would pick up eight MPH at 4500 RPM. While that may seem a logical thing to do, there is the little caviat called available power and I suspect the engine would not be able to twist a 16 inch 15P prop. If you actually did this and did pick up eight MPH, I would wager hole shot would be so terrible that you would beg someone to put it back the way it was. There is also the situation that while speed may be slightly better than you had before, the engine would be lugging and not able to get to it's recommended WOT range and therefore economy would be worse than before. So you see, there is no free lunch when it comes to gearing and props. You need to trust that the manufacturer knew what they were doing when they matched the gearbox, engine and prop.
 

tgissel

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Re: changing transmission gearing

Thanks Silvertip.

Both gearing options were available that year on Marinettes, thanks I was looking for confirmation of them being the same.

Thad
 

Silvertip

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Re: changing transmission gearing

I messed up the numbers but it is my favor at least. The gain would theoretically be six MPH not 8. Perhaps someone who has that boat with the 1.5:1 tranny will jump in here with there "real world" numbers. Generally the drive ratio is selected based on engine size so perhaps the 1.5:1 ratio was used with a smaller engine.
 

tgissel

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Re: changing transmission gearing

As stated per their website same engine just different props for the respective gearing. 1:1 got a 14x10 and the 1.52:1 got a 16x15. The reason for the question was thinking that I could carry more weight or people and cruise more efficiently with the larger prop catching more water. Thanks anyways. Those prop calculators never ask the waterline lenghth, beam or total weight. As these boats are fairly light 5800 lbs. for a 28' w/ a 10 1/2' beam all aluminum 23mph is the best I can get WOT w/ a single 318 225 hp Chrysler.

Thanks, Thad
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: changing transmission gearing

Why don't you google The Chrysler Crew and talk to Dave "Hurrikain" Kain. He and Franz run inboard Chrysler boats and engines . They may be able to give you some help. Believe me! These guys know their onions when it comes to Chrysler engines!

Tonight, Thursday is chat nite and you can catch both of them at 9PM to 11 PM Eastern Standard Time. Once you get bto the Chrysler Marine Website, scroll down to the chat room icon, join and logon. That's all there is to it.

I'll also be there under the nom de plume of "Bronzeman"
 
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