Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

[TonyNoriega]

Re: Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

About 2 months ago I did some deep searching on the 'net and ended up finding detailed analysis on the various 2-cycle oils.....from "never-heard-of-that-one" brands to the ones we all recognize. It was VERY educational in terms of the high degree of variance in ADDITIVES between the brands. Each brand was listed on the left with the various additives (in PPM?) detailed in columns to the right.

I wish I had bookmarked it, but I didn't, but it's out there somewhere.

I run a Yamaha 200hpdi and am now using nothing but Yamalube and Ringfree. What I spend extra for the stuff, I save in terms of worry.

My thinking is that if an engine manufacturer is recommending a certain oil while they are guaranteeing the product, they would want to recommend whatever is going to result in the fewest repairs and thereby save them mucho dinero in the long run.....

 

[LubeDude]

Re: Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

Where's Lubedude when we need him?

Chris..............

Here I am!!!

You all have covered it quite well but still no actual answer. I guess TheOilDoc is waiting for my reply so he can be, well enough of that!

Anyway, Normally it takes a lot of hours on one oil to tell how it is doing. I've heard that the Wall-Mart oil actually works out to be a pretty good oil. (If) I were using a small HP engine without oil injection, reguardless of the type of oil I was using, I would have two tanks in the boat, One mixed 50:1 for general running and one mixed at around 100:1 for prolonged periods of Idling! Now, most any of todays TC-W# synthetics be they semi or full synthetics will normally outperform the regular oil as far as carbon, wear and smoking.
Using a product like seafoam in the gas and decarbing at least once a year will keep any outboard clean reguardless of what oil you use.

 

[achris]

Re: Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

Chris, your post was very interesting..... In that magazine article you mentioned-what was the best? Also, can you suggest any brands that are in Australia that are also available in the U.S.? I'm going to try some searching elsewhere and see if I can come with some websites that have some studies like the one you mentioned. Also, I was hoping some full-time mechanics like yourself that have cracked open a lot of engines would check in.
THANKS,
JBJennings

The reason we had the magazine on the counter was because the oil that came out the best just happened to be the one we sold. We were Merc/Mariner dealers and stocked the Quicksilver oil. As mentioned by someone else, Quicksilver oil cames in a few different flavours. We only stocked the Quicksilver TCW-3 Premium Plus, in a silver plastic bottle. That oil gave the best fuel economy and produced the least smoke in all the different outboards. We also had employees from a few of the local gas stations buying oil for their own outboards from us. I asked one of them why he was buying ours and not his... He said "I wouldn't put that s..t in my engine!" Sort of says it all really.

Chris...........

P.S. I think the magazine was "Trailerboats" around June 1995.

 

[Frank Acampora]

Re: Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

Show me where the branded oil at 2 1/2 to 3 times the price will give me three times the mileage and three times the engine life and I will buy it. Show me numbers where it actually costs less to operate the engine on a per hour basis.

Telling me that some gas station employees "wouldn't put that s**t in their tanks" doesn't particularly impress me. Now if an oil refinery oil chemist said the same thing----

 

[DJ]

Re: Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

Show me where the branded oil at 2 1/2 to 3 times the price will give me three times the mileage and three times the engine life and I will buy it. Show me numbers where it actually costs less to operate the engine on a per hour basis.

Telling me that some gas station employees "wouldn't put that s**t in their tanks" doesn't particularly impress me. Now if an oil refinery oil chemist said the same thing----

Relax Frank. Have you read any oil related threads that were not strongly opinionated?

My opinion, is my opinion. Nothing more. I know what has worked for me. I use OEM everything and have/had NO issues over a very long time. Again, my opinion.

 

[dingbat]

Re: Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

I'm buying Merc Premium Plus by the case for $14.99 a gallon and the replacement value of my motor is $15, 550. What oil would you use?

What many use Super Tech in their trucks?

 

[BruceAML]

Re: Cheap 2-stroke oil????? Actual data?

Dingbat, you have it exactly right. Reminds me of the old saying:

He knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.