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Campylobacter

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Take an (adult) friend. A fidgety 4 year old needs someone watching, someone who is not supposed to be watching where the boat is going! It would be a shame if they miss out, however.
 

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Girlieboater have you looked into man overboard devices? There are quite a few of them out. But definitely don't go with the inflatable jackets...stick to the regular PFDs.
 

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Girlie, I will strongly advise you to boat with another adult until the kids are of an age that you know they will follow all the instructions. It will be hard to get one out trouble while making sure the other one dont do anything to get in trouble plus if you cannot effectively and safely drive the boat while you are paying attention to them unless it is a bow rider. Good luck, you will enjoy the time in the water with then and they will have great memories as well!!!!
 

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A rule of thumb: If your kids behave well when you're all out in a restaurant, then they may be OK in a boat. If they are the type that can't sit at the table, have to run around and yell and scream, then they have no business in a boat. Or a restaurant.

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tx1961whaler

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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. But, a couple of people wholeheartedly agreed with me, so I guess I'm not too far off the mark....and no, I don't think it was an ignorant statement. If the kids have no concept of listening to adult direction in a nice, safe restaurant situation, then they should not be in a boat until they can.
Peace!
 

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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. But, a couple of people wholeheartedly agreed with me, so I guess I'm not too far off the mark....and no, I don't think it was an ignorant statement. If the kids have no concept of listening to adult direction in a nice, safe restaurant situation, then they should not be in a boat until they can.
Peace!

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BMOLCHANY

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Well lets see first is you are the boss period, PFD on each, within eye sight at all times, at night put a chem light on their PFDs.
 

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Had an argument with my 12 year old nephew last weekend about his PFD, he did not understand why he had to wear it when his 18 year old sister did not. He kept arguing with me that on other boats he had been on he did not have to wear one, I finally told him either leave it on and shut up or go to shore and sit there and pout. Of course he also told me he had been tubing at 70 MPH, I just laughed and scared the crap out of him at only 20. He shut up after that.
 

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Hey one thing I wanted to mention.

The PFD's on the boat are a MUST. However it's not a bad idea to have them put them on before you even walk to the boat. Especially if your in a slip. Docks rock and roll and some are pretty narrow. If they fall off the dock next to another boat, it's very easy for an adult to feel claustrophobic and panic let alone a child.

Bill
 

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And NO, inflatables are not better. They are also not coast guard approved.


I think some clarification is in order ... inflatable PFDs are not approved for children under the age of 16 ... there are many USCG approved inflatable PFDs in general. Some caution when buying is advised, however, due to recalls on some products.
 

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Ok...so they are definitely going to wear PFDs all the time and having another adult on board sounds like a good idea (atleast until they are older). And I will look into the man overboard devices...is autotether a good one? or is there another one? I can not seem to find much about others.
 

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There is NO substitute for having another responsible adult on board when there are small children around. Your attention MUST be focused on operating the boat safely, not in correcting or controlling children. I attended a raft-up this weekend consisting of 22 boats. The boat next to me contained six-year-old twins. They were terrific. The father told them they could remove their PFD's if they were in the cabin or cockpit (while rafted up), otherwise they would be worn. The kids dutifully obeyed. Kids can obey when they know the expectations. Federal law requires that all children 12 and under must wear a PFD if they are above decks and the boat is underway. State law may supersede this. For example Maryland law says that children 7 and under must wear a PFD. So in Maryland children between 7 and 12 do not need to wear a PFD even though Federal law requires it.
You chance of survival increases something like 90% with the simple act of wearing a PFD. With that in mind, a boat may be one of the safest places for your children to be. If your children like to boat, they will obey the rules in order to be able to participate. Many years ago, when my children were young, our rule was that you did not step foot on the pier, much less the boat without a PFD. Since they loved being around the water, this rule was never broken. You need to make sure that boating is something that they want to do. If you do that, you will have no problem getting them to obey the rules.
 

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My kids have always worn their's on the boat and now never question it. If we are swimming in shallow water, we may let them remove them, but when they get back on the boat they both just automatically put them on. They understand well the one main rule, I am the captain and I make the rules, and they either follow them or they are not on the boat. In fact when other kids are on the boat they tell them this before I get a chance. BTW, they are 4 and 7.
 

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A rule of thumb: If your kids behave well when you're all out in a restaurant, then they may be OK in a boat. If they are the type that can't sit at the table, have to run around and yell and scream, then they have no business in a boat. Or a restaurant.

I see nothing ignorant at all in this post. On the contrary, it makes the point that if children don't behave in a restaurant they may not have the ability to behave on a boat. Nothing at all ignorant about this correlation. Children MUST behave in a boat for their safety. The post above also said nothing about where you can or can't take your children. I will say though that I have complained to restaurant managers before about unruly children. If I go to Chuck-e-cheese I expect to see kids running around, but not in most restaurants. I do not pay my hard earned money to go to a restaurant to listen to unruly children. A restaurant is a public place, but if a child is being unruly the parents, myself included, have a responsibility to take action. It is not the child's fault, he/she is just being a child. I have taken my children to the car when they have acted up in the past. I don't expect other people to have to put up with my children when they are acting up, and I don't feel I need to put up with other people's children when they are acting up. If someone feels that this is an ignorant position, so be it.
 

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I see nothing ignorant at all in this post. On the contrary, it makes the point that if children don't behave in a restaurant they may not have the ability to behave on a boat. Nothing at all ignorant about this correlation. Children MUST behave in a boat for their safety. The post above also said nothing about where you can or can't take your children. I will say though that I have complained to restaurant managers before about unruly children. If I go to Chuck-e-cheese I expect to see kids running around, but not in most restaurants. I do not pay my hard earned money to go to a restaurant to listen to unruly children. A restaurant is a public place, but if a child is being unruly the parents, myself included, have a responsibility to take action. It is not the child's fault, he/she is just being a child. I have taken my children to the car when they have acted up in the past. I don't expect other people to have to put up with my children when they are acting up, and I don't feel I need to put up with other people's children when they are acting up. If someone feels that this is an ignorant position, so be it.

Well, I am happy for you, perhaps you should just stay out of restuarants...
 

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Well, I am happy for you, perhaps you should just stay out of restuarants...

If your children are out of control in a contained public place & you don't care, a place where other people are paying to be, the children shouldn't be there. It doesn't matter if it is the opera, or a quite restaurant.

If you can't control them in situations where there is little danger to them, then chances are you can't control them when they become a danger to themselves, or those around them.

My girlfriend fly's for a living, and parents often turn their kids loose in the airplane for the duration of the flight, like it is some kind of “free for all” playground.

She hears the “how dare you” line all the time.

It generally stops, but not always, the second the parents are told to contain their children, or there will be a unplanned stop in Greenland where they can scream & play all they want to. Play that is, after they have a talk with the airport police who will be there to meet them at the plane as the are removed, before it takes off for the rest of the planned flight.

If you don't think they will stop in Greenland, and set you and your children off the plane, try it.

I don't dislike children, and nothing makes me happier than to see them running around being what they are, children. But there is a place, and a time for it.

I am not referring to sick, hurt, or tired children. I am talking about misbehaving children, and there parents.

In public, there are rules that override your rights as a parent, and they are there to protect people, from people that “dare” to write their own rules for society.

Like the other poster, I know in advance that if I go to “Chuck-e-Cheese” to expect this, and in this environment it wouldn't bother me. My choice to be there.

If I go somewhere quite to to eat to celebrate a anniversary, or something along these lines, I would like to think I can do so without the kid behind me screaming and throwing noodles on my suit over and over while the parents just ignore them.

Yes this happened last time we went out to eat. The restaurant owner finally told them to leave at someone else's request. Then came the, at the top of their lungs, “we are all child haters”, and “how dare we” tell them how to raise there children, speech from the parents.
 

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This is blown so far out of proportion that it is not even funny. I don't like unruly kids either, but you don't pay your money to not have to deal with unruly kids, you pay your money to eat at the restuarant. If you don't like what goes on at that restuarant find another one to which to go. This holier than thou attitude is frickin ridiculous... BTW, where do you live just in case I am ever in town I will make sure that my kids behave, I would hate to see what you might do to them if they did not!
 

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This is blown so far out of proportion that it is not even funny. I don't like unruly kids either, but you don't pay your money to not have to deal with unruly kids, you pay your money to eat at the restuarant. If you don't like what goes on at that restuarant find another one to which to go. This holier than thou attitude is frickin ridiculous... BTW, where do you live just in case I am ever in town I will make sure that my kids behave, I would hate to see what you might do to them if they did not!

I guess that was the awaited “we are all child haters” speech.

I'll make it easy on you I'll just stay out of Cary for about the next twenty years, and you can choose to fly on an airline other than Lufthansa.

Don't worry about your kids, they are juveniles, and as such not responsible for their behavior, that is where you come in.
 

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