Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

BlueMarlin

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Hello everybody

i have a Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 105HP

im portuguese and i ask where can find a trim pump to this model in europe ?

what price arounds in USA this pump ?

what year is that motor ?

and what model of NGK used in this motor ?

And a motor starter the price in usa ?

pictures of the pump of trim.







Thanks and Regards

Pedro Silva

Portugal
 

eurolarva

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Motor is from 1970 Starter motor part number is FS489955 and costs around $200 american. Sorry cant find anything on the trim I believe the part number for the whole Tilt and Trim is F72H09
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Well, Pedro--First, welcome to iboats.

Now, what you have there is not a trim unit. It is a tilt only unit. Tilt and trim unit would have 4 hoses and 4 ports on the pump. And, the stock unit came with two formed steel lines to and from the tilt cylinder and a flexible line to the tilt lock. This locked the engine down on the bar while in running position. Your hoses are not stock since the original did not have "Banjo" fittings like yours does.

The pumps were the same for many years and you could use a pump from anything from early Chrysler to Early Force engines--any 3 or 4 cylinder. As a matter of fact, some early Evinrude/Johnson engines used the same pump. So if you are willing to scavenge, you should be able to find what you need. If you were to acquire a 4 line pump, you need only to block off one port--I forget which one it is, but if you compare pumps, it will be obvious. So, if you look around any marinas near you and find a junk Force engine, you can buy parts from it

your pump motor looks like a three wire motor, however, it would be easy to retrofit with a 2 wire motor.

Do a search on this forum for power trim and find a fellow called RRitt. Send him a private message--he does a lot with trim and tilt units.

Spark plug is NGK BUH

Good Luck!
 

BlueMarlin

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Thanks for your answer's.

They know that someone selling these pumps in Europe? or in Portugal ?

Who is this pump used to sell?
The total price with the purchase ports include submission for Portugal?

Thanks and Regards

Pedro Silva
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BlueMarlin

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Someone can give me the manual in pdf of the starter and the trim and tilt of this engine ?
To see if i could repair this pieces.
In Portugal Not exist pieces for this engine

I thanks you for your helps

Thanks and Regards

Pedro Silva
Portugal
 

BlueMarlin

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Hello everybody

What coil use my motor ? reference of the coil ? the coil of a car serve for this motor ?



I dont have fire in my sparks plugs maybe the coil bad no ?

thanks and regards

Pedro Silva
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Frank Acampora

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Well, Pedro, That's an old puppy you have there. Someplace in the 1960s if I were to guess. Please note that your photo shows that it is not the original coil mount or wiring. Sometime in the past, the Italian coil was installed and the wiring changed.

First, before assuming the coil is bad do a couple of other checks.

First: Check the plugs to be sure they are clean and capable of firing.
Second: Check the plug wires to be sure they are not broken
Third: Check the wiring to the coil to be sure it will deliver power to the coil.
Fourth: Remove the distributor cover and check the points. Be sure they are clean and not worn or oxidized. Be sure they are set to .010 inch (someplace around .025 mm) opening at the top of a cam lobe. Be sure the condenser wire is not broken or disconnected and be sure the condenser itself is working and not shorted.
Two screws hold on the distributor cover. Note that the edge of the cover has a locating hole and the body of the distributor has a mating pin. The cap can only go on one way. Oh, Yeah! Check the center electrode in the distributor cap to be sure it is still spring loaded, not broken, and not worn to the point where it will not contact the rotor.

Once all these check out, then the next thing to check is the wiring from the ignition switch. Be sure that when the switch is turned on, that there is 12 volts power to the "I" or IGN" terminal on the back of the switch and there is 12 volts of power to the engine terminal that services the coil. (should be the blue wire connected to the wire to the coil + terminal.) If I remember correctly, with the switch on, there should be power directly to the coil + terminal. - terminal goes to the points. When the points are closed, the coil has power and a magnetic field builds up. When the points open, no current flows, the magnetic field collapses and the coil fires a high voltage spark. The condenser serves to keep the points from arcing (burning and pitting)

Now, if all these check out and you are getting voltage to the coil, and the ground or negative from the coil to the points is ok, then the coil is suspect.

If you replace the coil, you can use a regular auto coil, but for longest life either put a dropping resistor in series with the coil so it only gets 9 volts OR buy a 12 volt coil. (Because a car battery drops from 12 to 9 volts while cranking, for maximum spark, a regular car coil is 9 volts with an external resistor added for running after the engine starts.)
 

BlueMarlin

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Hello Everybody

Frank may i use a spark plug NGK B8HS ? , i read in another topic you said NGK B8S for this motor uses auto coil.
i install i my motor auto coil form a car.

my motor fire up thanks for your topics Frank.

Best Regards

Pedro Silva
Portugal
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: Chrysler Model: 1057HA Serial: 1028 / 105HP

Pedro: I think that someone corrected me and stated that that engine could use a UL18V sparkplug. That would be an NGK BUHX. That is a surface gap plug and usually requires a higher voltage to fire. But, if you have a couple of old ones on hand, try them first. If they don't idle well at all, then try one of the colder bent electrode plugs. For a better answer, Go to The Chrysler Crew Chat Room Thursday night at 9PM Eastern Standard Time. What are you? 5 hours ahead of us? That would make it 2AM your time--kind of difficult. If you can't do that, Chrysler Crew also has a message/help forum.
 
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