Clinton faults Bush for inaction on bin Laden**When is a joke not a joke?**

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All the liberal bashing is just a ploy to keep the American public from waking up and relizing that Bush is a freaking idiot..... I know I'm going to hear it, do you really think this country is better off than we were before?
 

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BLU said:
All the liberal bashing is just a ploy to keep the American public from waking up and relizing that Bush is a freaking idiot..... I know I'm going to hear it, do you really think this country is better off than we were before?

How is the TRUTH bashing? None of this was fabricated by anyone, just the facts.
 

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All you ever see here is liberal bashing, where's all the good news that Bush did for the country? Even on Fox news and Limbaugh alll you ever see there is bashing bashing and more bashing. There is not even enough positive news for a 30 second commercal.
 

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BLU said:
All you ever see here is liberal bashing, where's all the good news that Bush did for the country? Even on Fox news and Limbaugh alll you ever see there is bashing bashing and more bashing. There is not even enough positive news for a 30 second commercal.

What Eric said.... how is the truth "bashing"?
 

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BLU said:
All you ever see here is liberal bashing, where's all the good news that Bush did for the country? Even on Fox news and Limbaugh alll you ever see there is bashing bashing and more bashing. There is not even enough positive news for a 30 second commercal.

I guess we'll see in the next election BluLunch. The Dems are currently scurrying like a bunch of rats because they thought all their BS had wrapped it up. Many indicators are showing otherwise.

But even if you Libs take a relative shellacking in the next election, you will start whining about Republican caused voter fraud.

What a joke your party has become.
 

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Boomyal said:
BLU said:
All you ever see here is liberal bashing, where's all the good news that Bush did for the country? Even on Fox news and Limbaugh alll you ever see there is bashing bashing and more bashing. There is not even enough positive news for a 30 second commercal.

I guess we'll see in the next election BluLunch. The Dems are currently scurrying like a bunch of rats because they thought all their BS had wrapped it up. Many indicators are showing otherwise.

But even if you Libs take a relative shellacking in the next election, you will start whining about Republican caused voter fraud.

What a joke your party has become.


LOL... you know how it is, if you can't buy it, try to steal it 8)
 

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Wanna good laugh? Watch Bill lose it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwJabtvSUQ

Be sure to watch FoxNews Sunday tomorrow. To see the whole thing. I guess this was the tip of the iceburg.

Also, just a little passage from the Book Ghost Wars which the 911 comission called "definitive" and writen by the Sr Editor of the Washington Post (no Republican).


page 449
When the Clinton administration failed to authorize an attack on bin Laden during a desert hunting trip in 1999, "For some of the ground-level officers involved in the bin Laden chase the decision to hold fire seemed almost unforgivable. It had been one thing before the African embassy bombings to have their plan to raid Tarnak Farm [denied] ... but with the desert camp, recalled one participant, 'We knew he was there. We had assets in place. There was little risk to life and limb to anybody..and it would have been, we thought, definitive ... Some of them [CIA] blamed Clarke, speculating that he was so close to the U.A.E. royal family because of defense deals he had previously negotiated that he would never take the risk of offending them.... '"

Ralph
 

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Quote 12 footer

He will be remembered for what he was.



Your right 12 footer, he will be remembered for what he was, a philandering husband who happened to be the president while he was philandering.

If so surely you will give him kudos, do to the fact that he also was the last president that managed to balance the budget wouldn’t you?

And with all of your knowledge, you also would know that he was the first president since Andrew Jackson to do so wouldn’t you? Of course you wont I must be delusional.

That being said what will President Bush’s legacy be? that’s what it is right now .

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 24 Sep 2006 at 01:56:31 AM GMT is: $8,488,241,299,771,.70

The estimated population of the United States is 299,561,673
so each citizen's share of this debt is $28,335.54
 

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But wasn't the clinton administration that had positive intel from the Nothern Alliance where UBL was and they did not act on this? Did not kill UBL? For what? Don't want the world mad at us, do we.


Before I answer that for you Eric I need to know where you got your info?
 

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rspencer2k said:
Wanna good laugh? Watch Bill lose it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwJabtvSUQ

Be sure to watch FoxNews Sunday tomorrow. To see the whole thing. I guess this was the tip of the iceburg.

Also, just a little passage from the Book Ghost Wars which the 911 comission called "definitive" and writen by the Sr Editor of the Washington Post (no Republican).


page 449
When the Clinton administration failed to authorize an attack on bin Laden during a desert hunting trip in 1999, "For some of the ground-level officers involved in the bin Laden chase the decision to hold fire seemed almost unforgivable. It had been one thing before the African embassy bombings to have their plan to raid Tarnak Farm [denied] ... but with the desert camp, recalled one participant, 'We knew he was there. We had assets in place. There was little risk to life and limb to anybody..and it would have been, we thought, definitive ... Some of them [CIA] blamed Clarke, speculating that he was so close to the U.A.E. royal family because of defense deals he had previously negotiated that he would never take the risk of offending them.... '"

Ralph

What do you expect? The Clinton adminitration was "too touchy-feely" with Hilary running things to ever concider getting tough with anyone... unless it was for more money to the Chiness for Classified US tech.... and Bill was after all too busy with his "Staff".
 

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IBC had little to do with balancing the budget. It was the Republican controlled congress (Contract with America) coupled with the "peace dividend" after the fall of the USSR and unprecedented economic expansion driven by technology (PC, Internet, Y2K, Telecom boom).
 

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Treedancer said:

"If so surely you will give him kudos, do to the fact that he also was the last president that managed to balance the budget wouldn’t you?

And with all of your knowledge, you also would know that he was the first president since Andrew Jackson to do so wouldn’t you? Of course you wont I must be delusional."

Where do you get your info?... back that statement up....
 

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rspencer2k said:
IBC had little to do with balancing the budget. It was the Republican controlled congress (Contract with America) coupled with the "peace dividend" after the fall of the USSR and unprecedented economic expansion driven by technology (PC, Internet, Y2K, Telecom boom).

Guess you answered that...
 

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Quote EricKims
But wasn't the clinton administration that had positive intel from the Nothern Alliance where UBL was and they did not act on this? Did not kill UBL? For what? Don't want the world mad at us, do we.


Before I answer that for you Eric I need to know where you got your info?


Just go read Ghost Wars by Steve Coll (Sr Editor of the Washington Post). There were several occasions where UBL could have been taken out and he couldn't pull the trigger. Clinton himself admitted the Sudanese government offered to turn over UBL to the US and the US declined. You can hear Bill say if for yourself. You can probably find the audio on Sean Hannity or Rush's site.

The NA had parties ready to take UBL out twice according to Ghost Wars . The first was Tramak Farms (UBL's compound near Kabul as I recall) and the second was during desert hunting trip UBL took. In those days, UBL was not exactly in hiding.
 

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Here, I made it easy for you, this story contains a link to the actual audio:

On Tape, Clinton Admits Passing Up bin Laden Capture; Lewinsky Played Role

During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him."

But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/9/10/181819.shtml?s=tn
 

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Quote Pointer
Marc Rich pardon? No money exchanged there.


{Six years after the arms-for-hostages scandal began to cast a shadow that would darken two Administrations; President Bush today granted full pardons to six former officials in Ronald Reagan's Administration, including former Defense Secretary Caspar W. Weinberger.
Mr. Weinberger was scheduled to stand trial on Jan. 5 on charges that he lied to Congress about his knowledge of the arms sales to Iran and efforts by other countries to help underwrite the Nicaraguan rebels, a case that was expected to focus on Mr. Weinberger's private notes that contain references to Mr. Bush's endorsement of the secret shipments to Iran.
In one remaining facet of the inquiry, the independent prosecutor, Lawrence E. Walsh, plans to review a 1986 campaign diary kept by Mr. Bush. Mr. Walsh has characterized the President's failure to turn over the diary until now as misconduct.}

O sorry wrong Bush. Seriously, all presidents make pardons that someone will be unhappy about don’t they? But the one I just quoted affected two Presidents, not many lies in the testimony but a whole lot of I don’t recalls. In my opinion, the same as telling a lie.

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All our nuclear secrets ending up in China? DNC gets rich?


{Walter Pincus and Vernon Loeb reported in stories published in the Washington Post on 8 April and 9 May 1999 that in 1997 another Chinese-American scientist named Peter H. Lee had been arrested and pled guilty to verbally passing classified nuclear weapons information to Chinese scientists while he was employed as a physicist at Los Alamos. Like Wen Ho Lee (who is unrelated), Peter Lee is a naturalized citizen born in Taiwan.

The 1985 incident for which he was convicted involved a briefing Lee gave seven or more top Chinese nuclear scientists for two hours in a small conference room at another Beijing hotel. According to Pincus and Loeb;

By far the most celebrated case of actual and alleged Chinese-American nuclear espionage involved the case against Los Alamos nuclear scientist Wen Ho Lee. This saga grew out of a strange incident in 1995, in which a Chinese intelligence agent walked in to a U.S. diplomatic office unannounced and handed over a collection of highly classified Chinese documents, which included a 1988 Chinese document that made reference to design features of America's miniaturized nuclear warheads. The CIA later concluded that, for unknown reasons, this "walk-in" had acted at the direction of Chinese intelligence}
.
As far as can be determined from publicly available information, there appears to be no real evidence of China obtaining actual nuclear warhead designs from the U.S. At most the information seems to have been information about warhead design and technology, possibly quite sketchy, that would help guide Chinese research and development down the most productive tracks. Without detailed designs of warheads ("blueprints"), Chinese weapons would necessarily be based on indigenous designs even if they incorporated design features and concepts derived from U.S. systems.

Here is some of the info from my source on nuclear arms Pointer, what is your source? This source has been rather reliable in the past on arms info.

About your gig at the DNC money, don’t know any thing about it other than if I had the choice of ten percent swag from the DNC or the RNC guess what I would take?Yea your right, Mama treedancer hasnt raised many fools when it comes to money

Quote Pointer
{standing there piously with a halo over his head}o:)

What that administation tried to do to Paula Jones was unimaginable.


That was a terrible thing to do Buy he way maybe you can still get a hold so some of these tapes form good old Jerry. If not try the Swift Boat boys they most likely have few laying around.It seems that they are gearing up for the fall campaign.

Jerry Falwell accuses Clinton of Drug Smuggling and Murder
Jerry Farwell accuses President Clinton of peddling drugs and of being involved in the murder of Vincent Foster, the former White House deputy counsel.

Quote JB
HAHAhahahahaha!!!


that chubby little intern under the desk was really a Republican spy.


Come on JB, we all know that the little fat girl was part of the houscleaning crew,and polishing the mahogany desk.
 

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I think if you really look back it was Reaganomics that started the economic growth, carried the ball and Clinton was riding the end of the wave.
 

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LOL, Treedancer, that little "fat girl" was polishing more than the desk.
 

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Where do you get your info?... back that statement up....


You didn’t think I would lie did you CC I can always backup what I put down. Enjoy.

{cut and paste
Except for a short period during the presidency of Andrew Jackson, since its inception the United States Government has always been in debt. At one time, President Bill Clinton mananged to create a balanced budget for the national government.}


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_Budget_Amendment
 

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Yea, yea, yea... show me where it was Clinton that did the deed, not as Firestar pointed out, "Raganomics"

Clinton is the lowest of the lows as far as Presidents go, he was a liar and a cheat, a traitor, and lied under oath.

Your defense of "Slick Willy" says more about your politics than you know, but most people are blind to themselves.
 
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