Clogged fuel vent line

EZDude

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OK, here goes...

I am having problems filling up my fuel tank. It only takes about 3-4 gallons before it starts to burp and overflow the fill line. I did a bit of research on these forums and other places as well. It seems as if the likely culprit is a clogged fuel vent line.

This is permanent below deck fuel tank. I have a 1990 Glastron Sierra 175 with a new 4.3LX Mercruiser (4 bbl w/ Vortex heads) and an Alpha One sterndrive.

Here is what I have done so far:

1. Removed the vent line from the back of the fitting on the transom. Blew into the hose, felt resistance, but air eventually flowed and I could hear bubbles in the fuel tank. This did not correct the problem.

2. Removed the fitting in the transom and checked for debris or clogging. The mesh screen is intact and clear of debris. The fitting has no other noticeable clogging. Blowing into this shows no resistance.

3. I checked to see if the fuel vent line had any loops or dips in it that might cause fuel to buildup in the line. The fuel line runs straight (horizontal) across the top of the fuel tank due to the design of the tank and surrounding structures. The line then turns straight up towards the transom vent fitting. No noticeable dips, at least nothing drastic.

4. I removed the entire vent line hose. (this was no easy task). The hose had no debris or clogging. Air blew through just fine.

The only thing left is the vent fitting on the top of the tank. I believe, the only other possible location for a clog. The fitting looks like a small square block with a right angle penetration into the top of the tank. I tried to remove the fitting. There is a hex nut between the square block and the tank. The hex nut comes off easily, however the fitting does not slide out after loosening the hex nut. Is the fitting supposed to be removable?

Do these tank vent fittings have check valves? Could this be the source of the clog? How can I tell if this has a check valve? Should I try to remove this fitting again?

I did try to push a coat hanger down the fitting and into the tank. The wire went all the way inside the tank. But still did not fix the problem.

I am stumped here. I can post pictures if needed.

Thanks for any help.
 

Fed

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Re: Clogged fuel vent line

Blowing bubbles means your vent hose is below the fuel level where it enters the tank, see the problem?
Unhitch & lower the front of the trailer as much as possible will probably fix it to fill but what a PITA.
Add a vent to the front of the tank, another PITA?
Adjust the boat on the trailer so it sits a bit lower at the front?
Pretty typical of boat fuel tanks really.
 

EZDude

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Re: Clogged fuel vent line

Fed, thanks for the reply.

The vent fitting is at the very forward end of the tank. The fuel level sensor is immediately adjacent to the vent fitting. I removed the fuel sensor to look inside the tank. With the tank level only half full, the vent fitting was well above the fuel level.

Now, this really makes me wonder how/why I heard bubbles.

The vent fitting only penetrates the top of the tank, right? There is no tube on the inside of the tank connected to the vent fitting, is there?

This is getting frustrating. HHMMMM.......
 

Fed

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Re: Clogged fuel vent line

How does it fill if you do it slowly?
Perhaps the routing of the filler hose is a little restricted with corners etc and the pump delivery speed is just too much for it.
Doesn't account for the bubbles though, maybe a full filled dip in the vent line?
 

rwidman

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Re: Clogged fuel vent line

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Do these tank vent fittings have check valves?

No. The vent must pass air in both directions. Air flows out of the tank through the vent when you are filling the tank. It flows into the tank through the vent as you use the fuel to run the engine.

1. Removed the vent line from the back of the fitting on the transom. Blew into the hose, felt resistance, but air eventually flowed and I could hear bubbles in the fuel tank.

If you felt resistance and heard bubbles, the vent fitting was below the level of the fuel in the tank.
 
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Re: Clogged fuel vent line

I have a bayliner that does the exact same thing, i also could find no problems with the vent line. When i pump gas into the tank i just do it at a very slow rate, this seems to work for mine anyhow. Also if the boat sits with a full tank of gas the gas will seep out of the vent opening and run down the back of the transom. I think this is pretty much the norm for these boats. Hope this helps.
 

EZDude

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Re: Clogged fuel vent line

Thanks for all the feedback.

I feel as if this is a problem that I am going to have to live with. I think I may indeed be getting fuel in the vent line somehow. I am very confident the fuel line is above the tank and above the fill line with no dips or loops, however somehow fuel collects in the vent line, such as fuel movement in the tank while boating or transporting. Because of the design and location of the fuel tank and surrounding structure, there really isn't any way for me to reposition the fuel vent line.

I believe there are only two realistic options for me to choose from.

1. Put a tee fitting with cutoff valves in the vent line near the transom fitting to allow me to blow into the fuel vent line before filling, to clear any fuel that may have collected in the vent line.

2. Somehow replace the fuel vent fitting on top of the tank so that the vent line can come out vertical from the tank, as opposed to it coming out horizontal due to the elbow fitting on the tank. There is a structural beam that prohibits me from running the hose vertical from the elbow fitting. I would need to change out the fitting on the tank.

Does anyone know if the vent fittings on the tank are removable? I loosened the hex nut on the fitting on top of the tank, but the fitting does not come out. It feels like something is holding the fitting in place from inside the tank, such as hex/lock nut internal to the tank. I am not even sure if these fittings can be replace.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

What do you think about these new options?
 
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