Clutch dog slipping ?

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johnmark

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I have a 1976 35 hp evinrude (E35602S) when trying to reach WOT the motor will hit(clunk)hard against the transom then go a little futher then hit again always when the rpm's pick up ( new prop on the way) . If the clutch dog was slipping would'nt the motor rev up then catch again I'm lost on why the motor would hit the transom then try to go again maybe bad hub? thanks GUYS, John
 

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Re: Clutch dog slipping ?

A worn clutch dog is more likely to trip the motor out of gear although it would probably be possible to hold it in gear.

Check the hub by marking a line across the prop and the end of the shaft and taking it for a spin. If the mark on the shaft no longer aligns with the marks on the prop it is the hub slipping.

it maybe an intermittent ignition fault causing one cylinder to cut out
 

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Re: Clutch dog slipping ?

(Jumping Out Of Gear - Manual Type)
(J. Reeves)

This pertains to lower units on all OMC manual shift outboard engines, or any OMC engine with lower units defined as a Shift Assist or a Hydro Electric Shift unit which incorporates a "Shifter Clutch Dog".

Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog, hereafter simply called dog. The dog has at least two lobes protruding from it on both ends, facing both forward and reverse gear. The forward and reverse gears also have lobes built into them near their center area. When the engine is running, in neutral, the gears are spinning constantly via the driveshaft being connected directly to the powerhead crankshaft, but the propeller does not turn due to the fact that the dog is centered between the two gears, and the dog lobes are not touching either of the gear lobes.

When the unit is put into either gear, shift linkages force the dog (and its lobes of course) to engage the lobes of the gear. The lobes of the spinning gear grab the lobes of the dog, and since the dog is splined to the prop shaft, the propeller turns.

The lobes of the dog and gears are precisely machined, most with right angled edges that could be installed in either direction, and some with angles slightly varied that must be installed in one direction only (one end only must face the propeller). Dogs that can be installed in one direction only, if reversed, even if the dog and both gears were new.... would jump out of gear almost immediately. Keep in mind that the lobes are precisely machined with sharp angles!

Due to improper adjustment or worn shift linkages, but usually due to improper slow shifting, those precisely machined sharp edges of the lobes become slightly rounded. Now, with those lobes rounded, as the rpms increase, the pressure of the gear lobes upon the dog lobes increases to a point whereas they are forced apart (jumping out of gear), and due (usually) to the shift cable keeping tension on the engines shift linkages..... the unit is forced back into gear giving one the sensation that the engine has hit something, and the cycle continues.

Some boaters with manual shift engines have the mistaken belief that shifting slowly is taking it easy on all of the shifting components..... Wrong! Shifting slowly allows those precisely machined sharp edges of the dog and gears to click, clank, bang, slam against each other many times before they are finally forced into alignment with each other..... and this is what rounds those edges off! The proper way to shift is to snap the unit into gear as quickly as possible.
 

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Re: Clutch dog slipping ?

Thank every one .I went into the lower unit and the DOG was in backwards I fflited it around and got every thing back together waiting on a new prop before i run her again.well if the dog is bad I now know how to replace it. The hardest part for me was that big snap ring with my homemade snap ring tool(grinded down needle nose) anybody reading this take it from me get the right tool for the job less headaches. Thank You everyone,John
 

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Re: Clutch dog slipping ?

Those large snap ring pliers can be found at Matco Tools and NAPA to name a couple places.
 

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How large is large for the snap ring pliers? I have some fairly large ones but they are not large enough.
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