College suicides

jinx

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A few weeks ago I read an article about the number of suicides among college students, primarily freshman. It is an alarming number, and has remained a problem for many years.<br /><br />Little has been done--or said--about it over the years, however.<br /><br />Schools, naturally want to avoid the bad publicity and there is a stigma about suicide that keeps families silent. So, the cycle continues.<br /><br />What brings this to mind is a young man from my county who took his own life 2 weeks ago at his college. He was selected "outstanding volunteer of the year," and honored by his fire company earlier this year. True to form he volunteered at the fire house in the town where he went to school. His good works for others extended into helping others in many other ways too.<br /><br />It probably would not be an overstatement to say he was involved more in his community in his few years than most are in a lifetime. Not what you would call a candidate for taking his own life.<br /><br />True to form, the news blanked out any reference to how he died. Probably the school will be shocked, saddened and all too willing to let things die down.<br /><br />And so, the cycle continues. Problems that are swept under the rug never go away.<br /><br />This has been bugging me, so thanks for letting me get it off my chest.
 

ndemge

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Re: College suicides

A teacher that tought at my high school was arrested years later for child molestation, went to prison, when he got out, he killed himself.<br /><br />I found out from someone else, was never in the news, I thought it would be a big story for locals, emailed local news station, they said "we do not cover suicides" no matter what it's stemmed from, they don't make a story of it. I think they should mention what happened, you don't have to give the name, but at least tell people what happened.
 

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Adolescence is a truly tortuous time for many.<br /><br />I know many people who view their teen years as the best of their life. Many others, self included, view them as years of misery, confusion and intense pain.<br /><br />Where does the pain come from? For me, at least, it was frustration in trying to meet what we thought was expected of us by others or even ourselves. Academic achievement, church and community involvement, excellence in sports, attractiveness to opposite gender look like a great life to others, but can seem empty charades if one feels short of expectations.<br /><br />The young man you speak of, jinx, was obviously admired by the adult community, and rightly so. But what did his life look like from the inside looking out? I suggest that it looked like a terminal failure. The question is: why?
 

eeboater

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Its intersting that you create this thread right now Jinx...<br /><br />Last week, my cousin tried to commit suicide. Thankfully he didn't follow through because if he did, he would have been successful.<br /><br />Its a family tradition that when you turn 16 my grandfather would give you a gun. Nothing spectacular, just a .22. <br /><br />Well he admitted to having the gun in his mouth, with his finger on the trigger, and right when he was about to pull it, he heard a loud thump on the wall. I think it was my grandfather from up above telling him not to do it. My Poppy was a Gruff New Yorker that never held back what he thought and I could just picture him berating my cousin for the thought.<br /><br />He's a freshman in college and just wasn't handling it well.<br /><br />The twist to it all is his mom (my aunt) is a Dr. in Psychology. She was simply too close to notice. She was crushed.<br /><br />Sean
 

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My cousin considered it once or twice in College too. If you met this guy it would blow yer mind; smart, 6'4, athletic, good looking, chicks dig him, the whole deal.<br /><br />Pretty amazing. It may seem like a simple solution to even minor problems. Yer gone, nothin' to think about anymore? :confused:
 

jinx

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The article I read did mention a few warning signs which deserve to be better known. For example, "Hey Jake, would you like to have my stereo?" I simple comment, but often heard beforehand.
 

TTU_Guy

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Me being a college student, this doesn't suprise me at all. The pressures are intense and for many there is no end in sight. The workload for SOME major is unbearable. I personally can attest to staying up for 4 days with no sleep just to finish a project in time (5 days from assignment till due date). Let's just say I can't wait for May.
 

ZmOz

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Someone I know recently OD'ed on crack, most likely on purpose, and died at the end of his freshman year. He likely started using the crack to stay awake. Tight college deadlines make no sense to me. You're there to learn, why does it matter how long it takes? You are paying them alot of money...they should go at YOUR pace.<br /><br />I'm not going to college, and I can tell you I'm MUCH happier now than I was in high school. Alot healthier too. (lost over 50lbs since)
 

rodbolt

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a nephew of mine tried it and failed, my daughter was hospitalized due to suicidal tendancies in the 8th grade, one of her classmates did commit suicide in the ninth grade. its such a shame but the pressure but on kids today is way worse than it was in my youth in a tiny town down in alabama.<br /> I am with JB, for me high schools were very painful, I was rather awkward due to a rather large growth spurt, ended up as a freshman at 6'2" and 143 lbs. aint got much heavier over the years and I did start shrinking due to some health issues. most kids today, even though they are "involved" in things dont have much in the way of self control. they cannot wait and the pressure for immediate sucess is very great.<br /> after I got custody of my daughter and many years of counsiling we made it, she will turn 21 in june. while everyone was wailing and flaining cause she was failing the 8th grade I bought her a 7 year old mare and told her to be happy and the rest will come. I explained that if she failed it just ment she was not ready for the next level and it was not the worse by far that could ever happen. on the weekend of oct 9th and 10th she took 2 seconds and a 3rd in a Dressage show at a horse farm on long Island :) :) <br /> so its a difficult time for kids today and some just give up. its sad and totally avoidable but only by the person contemplating it.
 

wilkin250r

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On a little side-track, I don't think the pressure and stress of adolescense is really all that bad, but rather the lack of skills to deal with it that's the real problem.<br /><br />The pressure of real life and a career is generally worse, but by the time those role around, we have already developed the tools to deal with it better.
 

Kenneth Brown

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Might just be right Wilken. Life was either all up or down for me in my teen years. It was either the greatest thing or it sucked really bad. I will say that I am glad that my faith led me to believe I would be damned had I carried through with the action I tried many times.
 

mattttt25

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maybe the current group of parents, age 35-50, have failed. seems everyone always points to the kids of today, but maybe it's a different problem. i don't know, just a thought.<br /><br />i agree the stress and pressure on children today is far greater than past generations. the world we live in has more problems, and that weighs on everyone.
 

TTU_Guy

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I have to disagree with wilkin. Try being a double full time student, part time job when school is in session, full-time with overtime on breaks, graduate classes, and a thesis all at once. I dream of 40-50 hour weeks.
 

PW2

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I can relate a little bit to the stress of college! I worked at least 40 hrs per week while taking a full load in college--and every chance we got we went snow skiing.<br /><br />I dodged trees dangerously close at high speeds until I sort of figured ou that I might have been trying to hurt myself just to be forced to take a break--it scared me a little, and I slowed down a bit...<br /><br />But it doesn't always affect the very young. My daughter's eye doctor in Port Angeles and I got into it at one point---She was 5 years old and complaining of tunnel vision--he accuse her of lying to him during an exam to the point where she started to cry---at which point I stepped in and started to loudly argue back at him---<br /><br />At any rate we already had an allergy appointment for her in Seattle, so we called a pediatric eye specialist also in Seattle to get a second opinion--he took one look at her and said this girl needs to get a cat scan--and we found a brain tumor.<br /><br />We got back to Port Angeles and filed an official complaint (not a lawsuit) with the local medical board--and a month or so later, he took to the foothills and put a 12 ga shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.<br /><br />Apparently we were not the only patient he was having trouble with.
 
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