Common Courtesy

Tig

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Re: Common Courtesy

I fished a charter out of Sacket's Harbor in New York about 15 years ago. The captain had a decal detailing US Coast Guard disposal rules on the water. It was graduated in distance from harbor or shore. As I recall by the five mile range anything goes. Closer in it had to be sinkable. I'm pretty sure it also detailed gray water and black water ranges. I was very surprised that such rules existed.
 

smartwork

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Re: Common Courtesy

Nothing sends me into a fit of road rage except when someone flicks a cigarette butt out

Agreed - and how did "flicking butts" EVER become a type of littering that appears to be so accepted everywhere that piles of them on the ground are the norm and not the exception???
 

fishrdan

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Garbage is my pet peeve too, not only floating, but on shore. There is 1 segment of our population out here that thinks it's OK to leave all their trash on the shore when they leave, bags, bottles, wrappers, dirty diapers. One of the local reservoirs owned by a water district was closed because "these people" could not pick up after themselves. :rolleyes:

Some people use the water as a dumping ground.

They were cruising out of the Killarney Channel (Georgian Bay) in a bowrider, following far behind some mega-yacht when they watched someone on board toss a black garbage bag over the side.

The captain had a decal detailing US Coast Guard disposal rules on the water. It was graduated in distance from harbor or shore. As I recall by the five mile range anything goes. Closer in it had to be sinkable. I was very surprised that such rules existed.

I think most people would be shocked if they knew what gets tossed into the ocean. Ever heard of the massive plastic vortex out in the middle of the Pacific, refuse from ships, boats. I was fishing on a sportboat that had 8-10 55 gallon bags of garbage sitting on the bow, next morning they were gone... All of the fishing line that was stripped off during the trip was just tossed into the ocean, in the garbage bags.
 

NelsonQ

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Ok, so I have to ask... What kind of livewell is that!? most livewells that I've seen have a 1 inch max water inlet.

Sorry, I stop, scoop it up, and use my livewell as a garbage container until I get to shore.

That would be some large pickup to collect that kinda stuff :D:D:D
 

Dabbler_E

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Here is a list of items retrieved from Mirror Lake located on the campus of The Ohio State University during the last cleanout. While not a boating lake (it's a small pond, only about 4' deep), I can only imagine it's a cross-section of what can be found in a big lake! Common courtesy and responsibility are withering away with time.
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Excellent euphemism!
 

Stachi

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Re: Common Courtesy

Garbage is my pet peeve too, not only floating, but on shore. There is 1 segment of our population out here that thinks it's OK to leave all their trash on the shore when they leave, bags, bottles, wrappers, dirty diapers. One of the local reservoirs owned by a water district was closed because "these people" could not pick up after themselves. :rolleyes:







I think most people would be shocked if they knew what gets tossed into the ocean. Ever heard of the massive plastic vortex out in the middle of the Pacific, refuse from ships, boats. I was fishing on a sportboat that had 8-10 55 gallon bags of garbage sitting on the bow, next morning they were gone... All of the fishing line that was stripped off during the trip was just tossed into the ocean, in the garbage bags.

another massive garbage pit was discovered in the Indian Ocean recently.....as I read the article , it showed that EVERY ocean has one...what is wrong with people !..... I live on a corner lot, with a heavily trafficked road to one side, and I cannot believe the amount of trash that people throw out of their cars and ends up on my lawn...filthy savages in my opinion....I witnessed a guy tossing a bag of trash out of his car , in front of my house one day...he was waiting for the light to change...I ran down and scooped up the bag of trash , threw it into his car and told him to take it home and throw it out in the street in front of HIS house....
 

barato

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Re: Common Courtesy

hey, it could be worse....where i live, people regularly toss out used disposadiapers on the street.:(

the fishing line is my pet peeve. i saw too many pix in the outdoor rags when i was a kid of dead/dying wildlife wrapped up in discarded mono or plastic 6pack holders etc. And many of the brightly colored bits get eaten by albatroses and kill them....saw a photo spread recently of the remains, where the plastic bits still endured.

a lack of common courtesy is a nice way to put it. reckless murder is another. makes you wish for a bow cannon........:rolleyes:
 

Stachi

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in essence.... littering is a foul thing for a person to do...when on land or the water.
 

Stachi

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hey, it could be worse....where i live, people regularly toss out used disposadiapers on the street.:(

the fishing line is my pet peeve. i saw too many pix in the outdoor rags when i was a kid of dead/dying wildlife wrapped up in discarded mono or plastic 6pack holders etc. And many of the brightly colored bits get eaten by albatroses and kill them....saw a photo spread recently of the remains, where the plastic bits still endured.

a lack of common courtesy is a nice way to put it. reckless murder is another. makes you wish for a bow cannon........:rolleyes:

I am an avid surf angler...usually toss artificials out...anytime I have to cut line , it gets wrapped up and stuffed into a pocket on something..same while fishing from the boat.. makes sense to me
 

NYBo

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Those massive "islands" of trash in the oceans are also the result of decades of municipal trash being dumped (legally) at sea.:mad:
 

scoutabout

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Re: Common Courtesy

From the site EarthFirst:

"The swirling vortex of plastic trash in the Pacific Ocean, known as the Great Pacific Garbage Patch...takes up an astonishingly large area of the Pacific Ocean ? twice the surface area of the continental United States. It?s essentially the world?s largest garbage dump, and it?s held in place by swirling underwater currents. It stretches from about 500 nautical miles off the coast of California, across the northern Pacific nearly as far as Japan..."

ocean-trash.jpg
 

And-Con

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I started to use trash seen floating as man overboard practice-a beer bottle is a lot harder to keep an eye on than a person, and it gets picked up in the end
 

Sixmark

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Wow, I never thought when I started this thread that there would be this many replies, however it does make me feel a little better knowing that there are actually some other people out there that care about these issues.

Maybe if each of us can spread the good habits to even one other person and then they do the same, the problem will become smaller.........here's to wishful thinking.
 

MacPointMan

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Re: Common Courtesy

just post a sign on your boat that says "Don't worry Ill pick up your trash for you." make others aware thats all you can do.

The people that post in this forum and utilize it probably have more respect for others than to throw their trash into the lake or waterway that they are utilizing.

I know if I notice something accidentally come out of my boat I will turn right around and grab it reevaluate my storage situation and fix the problem so that nothing else comes out of the boat. Yes I have had a Walmart bag come out of my boat, Yes I turned back around to pick it up along with a couple of other items and, Yes other boaters saw me do it.

Do I like cleaning up after others? Absolutely NOT, unfortunately it is a fact of life. There will always be those who are disrespectful and just don't care.

Common courtesy extends to not just cleaning up after ones self but also helping others who may be stranded on the water.

MacPoitnMan
 

riptide09

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A few years ago my friend got a place on a lake. There was second story deck that over looked the lake. Just the right place to sit and enjoy the lake. In the water below the deck were literally hundreds if not thousands of Bud Lite bottles. The jerks who owned the camp before him sat on the deck drinking and throwing the empties in the lake.

It took a long time to get most the empties out. Initially we spent a couple of days filling garbage bags with empty bottles and of course tons of them broke. We had to work in shoes and work gloves to clean up the mess. Every now and then we still find an empty down there.

My house backs up on conservation land. Lots of it. When I bought my house it was winter and the snow covered a lot of stuff. In the spring after the snow started melting I saw junk piles on the back of my lot. The yard is level and where my property turns into conservation land there is like a 3 or 4 foot drop off. Right past the drop the owners before me threw their junk.

I pulled out 2 old air compressors, V8 block, 50 odd tires (some with rims, some not), a 55 gallon drum and other junk.

If people can't/won't even keep their own property clean how the hell can we expect them to keep other places clean?
 

CaptainSkip

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I remember seeing lot's of trash bags and trash along the river banks. Wondered who could do that? Then, when I was a kid, I worked on the river barges as a deckhand. The first time out around midnight, trash was collected in garbage bags, then heaved ho overboard! I said "what you doing?" other deckhand said "That's the way we do it, it's been done like that for years, cat fish will eat it."
Mystery solved.
 
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