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Running Windows ME on my home computer. Got home from Ghana and did a few Windows updates to get it current. After the last one the computer will only boot in safe mode. If I try to boot normally it will give me a VxD error. I have gone into msconfig and taken out the static VxD's. Still get the same error. Any suggestions?<br /><br />Thanks.
 

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Do you have the exact message?<br /><br />VXD is usually something with the network.
 

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Puter is at home, and it doesn't look like I am going to get there tonight. The puter starts to load, Windows screen on then off, loading of Bios, then screen goes all blue with white lettering. Something ot the effect of:<br /><br />error 08:00000243 (not sure what the actual number is) failure to load VxD. Press any key to continue. May not be able to load ...<br /><br />press any key and will get a big red COMPAQ across the screen, hard drive still turning, but that is all it will do.
 

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BTW, the computer is NOT networked.
 

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Okay Computer guru's, here is the scoop. I get an error message as follows:<br /><br />An exception 06 has occurred at 0028:0000000B in VxD---. This was called from 0028:C148ABAE in VxD---. It may be possible to continue normally.<br /><br />* Press any key in an attempt to continue<br />* Press CNTL+ALT+DEL to restart your computer. You will lose any unsaved info in all applications.<br /><br /><br />Tried to follow the help and did a scandisk/all/surface and a scanreg/restore<br /><br />Nothing seems to work. When I tried to boot using the boot disk and the ME CD I got an IFS****.*** error. Did not write down the error message.<br /><br />What do I need to do next?
 

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I'm suprised that windows update did this to you. It supposed to fix things.<br /><br />Do you have a recent backup?
 

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You did a "last known good" type of registry restore already? .. if that doesn't work, your probably hosed and need to re-install.<br /><br />Win 98 was "scanreg" 2k is "last known good"<br /><br />Not sure how ME does registry backups.<br /><br />Did you have Nero installed by chance?
 

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It sounds like you have a virus on your pc in the operating files. From the sounds of it you have access to another pc, so remove the hard drive out of your bad pc and then add it into the new pc as a second drive. <br />By adding it in as a second drive it won’t use the bad me operating system. Run scan disk on the bad drive and delete any problem files. Also you can download Stinger (Virus remover) from McAfee for free. You can also try the free scan from http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ If nothing else you should be able to format the bad drive while you have it in as a second drive in the good pc. Then place it back in the old pc and reload ME
 

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don't know if this will help<br />Knowledge Base <br /><br />What Are Fatal Exception ErrorsPSS ID Number: 150314<br /><br />Article Last Modified on 9/28/2002<br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />The information in this article applies to:<br /><br /><br />Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition<br />Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition<br />Microsoft Windows 98<br />Microsoft Windows 95<br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />This article was previously published under Q150314<br />If this article does not describe the error message that you are receiving, view the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article to view more articles that describe error messages:<br />315854 Windows 98 and Windows Me Error Message Resource Center <br /><br />To view a list of articles applicable to Fatal Exception 0E errors in Windows 98, click to view the following link: <br />Click here to view a list of Fatal Exception 0E articles<br /><br />To view a list of articles applicable to Fatal Exception 0E errors in Windows Me, click to view the following link: <br />Click here to view a list of Fatal Exception 0E articles<br /><br />SUMMARY<br />When you attempt to shut down your computer, start Windows, or start a program in Windows, you may encounter error messages that are similar to: <br />A fatal exception XY has occurred at ***x:******xx<br />Fatal exception errors are codes that are returned by a program in the following cases: <br />Access to an illegal instruction has been encountered <br />Invalid data or code has been accessed <br />The privilege level of an operation is invalid <br />When any of these cases occurs, the processor returns an exception to the operating system, which in turn is handled as a fatal exception error. In many cases the exception is non-recoverable and the system must either be restarted or shut down, depending upon the severity of the error. <br /><br />In the sample error message that is listed above, XY represents the actual processor exception from 00 to 0F. (Note that the "h" that is listed after the 0E, 0F, and so on, in the explanations below is frequently omitted from the error message.) The ***x:******xx value represents the enhanced instruction pointer to the code segment; the 32-bit address is the actual address where the exception occurred. <br /><br />Windows does not cause these errors, but has the exception-handling routine for that particular processor exception, which displays the error message. <br /><br />NOTE: This article is primarily for informational use. Click the following link to go to the "Troubleshooting Fatal Exception Errors" section of this article: <br />Troubleshooting Fatal Exception Errors<br /><br />MORE INFORMATION<br />Processor Exceptions and Their Definitions<br />00: Divide Fault<br />The processor returns this exception when it encounters a divide fault. A divide fault occurs if division by zero is attempted or if the result of the operation does not fit in the destination operand. <br />02: NMI Interrupt<br />Interrupt 2 is reserved for the hardware Non-Maskable-Interrupt condition. No exceptions trap through interrupt 2. <br />04: Overflow Trap<br />The overflow trap occurs after an INTO instruction has executed and the 0F bit is set to 1. <br />05: Bounds Check Fault<br />The BOUND instruction compares the array index with an upper and lower bound. If the index is out of range, then the processor traps to interrupt 05. <br />06: Invalid Opcode Fault<br />This error is returned if any one of the following conditions exists: <br />The processor tries to decode a bit pattern that does not correspond to any legal computer instruction. <br />The processor attempts to execute an instruction that contains invalid operands. <br />The processor attempts to execute a protected-mode instruction while running in virtual 8086 mode. <br />The processor tries to execute a LOCK prefix with an instruction that cannot be locked. <br />07: Coprocessor Not Available Fault<br />This error occurs if the computer does not have a math coprocessor and the EM bit of register CR0 is set indicating that Numeric Data Processor emulation is being used. Each time a floating point operation is executed, an interrupt 07 occurs. <br /><br />This error also occurs when a math coprocessor is used and a task switch is executed. Interrupt 07 tells the processor that the current state of the coprocessor needs to be saved so that it can be used by another task. <br />08: Double Fault<br />Processing an exception sometimes triggers a second exception. In the event that this occurs, the processor will issue a interrupt 08 for a double fault. <br />09: Coprocessor Segment Overrun<br />This error occurs when a floating point instruction causes a memory access that runs beyond the end of the segment. If the starting address of the floating point operand is outside the segment, then a General Protection Fault occurs (interrupt 0D). <br />10 (0Ah): Invalid Task State Segment Fault<br />Because the Task State Segment contains a number of descriptors, any number of conditions can cause exception 0A. Typically, the processor can gather enough information from the Task State Segment to issue another fault pointing to the actual problem. See Microsoft's Programming the 80386/80486 Guide for more information. <br />11 (0Bh): Not Present Fault<br />The Not present interrupt allows the operating system to implement virtual memory through the segmentation mechanism. When a segment is marked as "not present," the segment is swapped out to disk. The interrupt 0B fault is triggered when an application needs access to the segment. <br />12 (0Ch): Stack Fault<br />A Stack Fault occurs with error code 0 if an instruction refers to memory beyond the limit of the stack segment. If the operating system supports expand-down segments, increasing the size of the stack should alleviate the problem. Loading the Stack Segment with invalid descriptors will result in a general protection fault. <br />13 (0Dh): General Protection Fault<br />Any condition that is not covered by any of the other processor exceptions will result in a general protection fault. The exception indicates that this program has been corrupted in memory, usually resulting in immediate termination of the program. <br />14 (0Eh): Page Fault<br />The Page Fault interrupt allows the operating system to implement virtual memory on a demand-paged basis. An interrupt 14 usually is issued when an access to a page directory entry or page table with the present bit set to 0 (Not present) occurs. The operating system makes the page present (usually retrieves the page from virtual memory) and re-issues the faulting instruction, which then can access the segment. A page fault also occurs when a paging protection rule is violated (when the retrieve fails, or data retrieved is invalid, or the code that issued the fault broke the protection rule for the processor). In these cases the operating system takes over for the appropriate action. <br />16 (10h): Coprocessor Error Fault<br />This interrupt occurs when an unmasked floating-point exception has signaled a previous instruction. (Because the 80386 does not have access to the Floating Point unit, it checks the ERROR\ pin to test for this condition.) This is also triggered by a WAIT instruction if the Emulate Math Coprocessor bit at CR0 is set. <br />17 (11h): Alignment Check Fault<br />This interrupt is only used on the 80486 CPUs. An interrupt 17 is issued when code executing at ring privilege 3 attempts to access a word operand that is not on an even-address boundary, a double-word operand that is not divisible by four, or a long real or temp real whose address is not divisible by eight. Alignment checking is disabled when the CPU is first powered up and is only enabled in protected mode.<br /><br /><br />Troubleshooting Fatal Exception Errors<br />Clean Boot Your Computer<br />Because there are many conditions that can cause a fatal exception error, the first step in resolving the issue is to narrow the focus. To narrow the focus, try a "clean boot" of your computer. <br /><br />Clean-boot troubleshooting refers to methods of reducing problems that may occur because of your computer's environment. Many problems occur because of conflicting drivers, terminate-and-stay-resident programs (TSRs), and other settings that are loaded when your computer starts. For additional information about how to clean-boot your computer, click the article numbers below to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: <br />192926 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 <br /><br />243039 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 95 <br /><br />Query the Microsoft Knowledge Base<br />To determine if the error message that you are receiving is documented in the Microsoft Knowledge Base, search the Microsoft Knowledge Base at: <br /> http://support.microsoft.com/support/ <br /><br />242450 How to Query the Microsoft Knowledge Base Using Keywords <br /><br />Articles About Fatal Exception Error Messages<br />For additional information about fatal exception error messages, click the article numbers below to view the articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: <br />133440 Error Message: This Program Has Caused a Fatal Exception 0D at 00457:000040B1 and Will Be Terminated <br /><br />192803 Fatal Exception 0D Using ATI All-in-Wonder Pro Video Adapter <br /><br />175211 Fatal Exception Error When Opening or Closing Control Panel <br /><br />171195 Fatal Exception Error Suspending and Resuming with MSDLC32 <br /><br />187214 Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028:C02A0201... <br /><br />190123 Error Message: A Fatal Exception 06 Has Occurred at... <br /><br />252523 Fatal Exception Error Message When Attempting to Connect to the Internet <br /><br />189655 Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028:<******XX> <br /><br />NOTE: This list of articles is not comprehensive. 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Restore - I tried to restore to before all the updates - still the same. Somehow a file must have gotten corrupted. Can't imagine a virus got through, but anything can happen!<br /><br />No, don't have NERO installed.<br /><br />Can't get the puter to read the CD drives either. Will have to remove hard drive and follow voxmorgan's suggestions, I guess. DVD and Cd Burner came with puter and don't have the software for them, so hopefully I don't have to do a complete format and re-install.
 

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If you can get it to boot from a diskette, you still have a good chance of saving important files.<br /><br />It takes a bit of planning (consider all files re. Office, mail setup and mailboxes + other files & software that you havo no access to by means of original media).<br /><br />Once critical files have been stored (either to a different drive or different partition), I'd suggest you make best use of your time by not hunting errors and making fixes that will never really make the puter happy anyway: Simply upgrade to another operating system. Check driver availability for your devices before deciding on this as not all older gear will be useable with the latest operating systems.<br /><br />If you want to stay in the old core line go to Windows 98 Second Edition. If you're up for the Quantum Leap go for Windows 2000 or XP (if you don't mind Microsoft Activation keys & control).<br /><br />Windows 2000 is the last OS that does not interact with MS on it's own & behind your back.<br /><br />Once you're ready you should make a clean install (not upgrade) incl. a format of the drive or partition in question. Make sure not to format the drive you used for storing important files.<br /><br />The Windows NT core (still used in 2000 and XP) and the latest RAM management are among the biggest advantages with those OS's and they set the base for much more ridgid computing and remarkably better perfomance.
 

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I think you need to revert back to msconfig and use a very methodical approach. On the startup tab, uncheck about 5-10 items at a time and try rebooting normally. If that doesn't help, go back into safe mode, reenable those 5 or 10 and uncheck the next 5-10, and so on. If you isolate the problem to a group of 5 or 10, then use the same process on those items, but one at a time. This is time consuming, but you may be able to isolate it to one thing. If you do isolate it, you may have to edit the registry to manually remove all signs of whatever it is.<br /><br />If your system has the power and you have access to Windows 2000 or XP, I would really recommend using this opportunity to get away from ME. In my field, computer tech, ME is arguably the worst, most unstable OS ever released by Microsoft.
 

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Don't like XP cause I don't like MS working "Behind my back". May do the 2000 route. Got home after 10 last night. Worked on it a little. Removed hard drive and have it on office computer. Currently removing all data files (hopefully will get them all - keep all that I can in their own Data folder. Others that can't be moved from their directory, well, I am trying to get them all also.). Then will format and start from scratch. What a royal pain in the tuckus!<br /><br />Repeat after me, "I love Bill Gates and Microsoft!"
 

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If you owned some of there stock's you would be loving them right now...<br /><br />Formatting over allways works. Always use it as the last resort.<br /><br />Good luck<br />- Brian
 

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I do own their stock, but hate the product - necessary evil for some of the software I use.
 

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that's one of their problems as far as software goes... they're much more interested in keeping their monopoly and making profits than making better software. <br /><br />diversity is good, especially in software.
 

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We're running both Microsoft, Linux and UNIX and although MS have been a pain in the B** I have to admin, that 2000 and XP are lightyears away from the Win9x range. Since migrating from Windows 98 to 2000 on all client computers, the need for pc support has gone down by over 80% !<br /><br />UNIX and the clones sure are super ridgid and reliable. They still lack a lot of the user- and administrator friendliness of MS, however. The OpenSource principle is very nice indeed but building de-facto standards in such an environment is hard (impossible) and implementing software and networking takes A LOT from the user.<br /><br />Clearly the resurces behind open source software are not as massive as the huge amount of companies working on MS compatible stuff which even makes documentation and support suffer.
 

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Well, it is time to break down and let a professional try - can't get any data off the hard drive. All diagnostics point to bad drive. Bummer. Have some un-backed up pictures that I hate to loose! Anyone know anyone that can recover data from a bad HD without taking all your money?
 

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you might try to put in a new (another) drive and load it the cable the old one in and see if you can recover the files! You are right, it can be verrrry costly. I have seen techs that would pull a hard drive that had failed out and slam it on its side, I myself do not do this, but if its a head crash it can knock the heads loose from the plater. I would say back up often, but I am guilty myself so I wont!
 

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Have already run the drive as a slave on another computer. I can read the file names, but the contents won't copy and I can't open them. Taking it to PSU tomorrow - have a friend that works IT. Maybe they can use some of their software to recover data. Time will tell. New hard drive is being purchased today.
 
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