Considering a new boat. Recommend me one ($10k budget)

Ck111484

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So I currently have a '93 Four Winns 215 Sundowner:

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I purchased it this spring, and although it took a lot of initial work, I've got it looking nice and running beautifully and it's been a great boat.
There's a lot of things I like about it, however, I've since realized that it is not really perfect for my needs.
All I really use the cabin for is storage, and it's not very practical going up and down into it to get to coolers, bags etc. The toilet is located under the center cushion in the cabin, and usually there's too much crap down there for it to be easily accessible, so most people just jump in the water. The bow is not terribly comfortable to lay on, and the anchor locker is relatively difficult to access. So the closed-bow aspect of the boat is largely a waste of space for me.
Also, the cockpit setup consists of two swivel captains chairs and a large rear bench, so there is only really seating for ~6 people.
My boat also does not have snap-out carpet, which means when things get spilled on the carpet, the stains can become permanent and cleaning is much more difficult/involved.

My boating consists of hanging out all day with 4-8 friends, usually on a large inland lake (Lake St. Clair), and some tubing/wakeboarding. I wanted a cuddy because the lake can get fairly rough (2-3ft chop) and a closed bow boat is generally a deeper V, more "seaworthy" boat. I have been quite impressed with how my current boat handles rough water; however I'm finding that the impracticality of the closed bow far outweighs its rough water capabilities, but that is still important to me because I do intend on using the boat on large bodies of water, for instance the Great Lakes.


So, I'm thinking that it may make sense for me to switch over to something like either a traditional open-bow, deck-type or even a dual console boat.
My wish list would be:

21-24ft.
Open bow
Ability to "comfortably" handle 2-3 footers
Enclosed head
Lots of storage
Easily accessed anchor
Snap-out carpet
Quality build

Now, there are plenty of new boats that match my needs perfectly; something like this would be absolutely perfect:

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Or a dual console:

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However, my budget is only ~$10k, and it seems that they simply didn't start making boats like this long enough ago to be affordable; most are either traditional bowriders (sit fairly low in the water, no enclosed head, etc.), full out deck boats (very shallow deadrise, poor build quality etc.), or full out fishing boats (very little seating, live wells, etc.).

Any suggestions on a particular older boat that would fit my needs, that would come in around $10k?
The closest I've found is something like this Rinker:

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1998-Rinker-232br-101823579

But they seem to be quite uncommon.

Any suggestions on a particular boat that would fit my needs?
Any input is welcome,
Thanks!
 

jestor68

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Re: Considering a new boat. Recommend me one ($10k budget)

Since the seller indicates that all trades are considered, why not talk to them about trading? Trading your '93 for a '98 should involve less than your budgeted amount. :)
 

tpenfield

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Re: Considering a new boat. Recommend me one ($10k budget)

Are we talking about $10K plus the value of your current boat? ( I hope so) or just $10K total.

The good news is that for the next few months it will be boat buyer's mecca. Selling . . . not so good. So, if you are doing the selling & buying thing, then you will have to give up $$$$ on the selling side, but will make up for it on the buying side.

Current boat is worth about $6-7K . . . and assuming that you have a trailer that goes with it, maybe a bit more. If you want to sell it, list it for near the value of the boat and the trailer goes with it.

So, if your budget is $15-17K total, then you may have some options.

Sea Ray and Wellcraft makes/made some deck boats . . . Grady white makes/made some dual consoles . . . Rinker also has some nice layouts and they will be more budget friendly.

For your intended travels, a 24-26 foot bowrider should be your target. Anything 22 footish, is going to more of a submarine in the chop.

You can use http://boats.oodle.com to do a search. It seems to pull up a lot of boats from various sites. You can also use "Search Tempest" to search through craigslist.

Since I am in the midst of a boat search myself, if I find anything that may be of interest to you, I will send it your way.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Considering a new boat. Recommend me one ($10k budget)

21-24' for under $10K means old old old.

You have already, wisely, ruled out the basic bowrider. The dual consoles in your pictures have the seaworthy hull, and may have a head in one console--but it sounds like you have found, as many boaters do, that a head is not necessary and an enclosed head a big waste of space for a limited function. Same with cabins. Lots of starting boaters assume they want cabin/head and find them unwise later.

Although the price will be hard to find, look at the 23' center consoles. Most have lots of seating and all have way more room than a bowrider. No carpet, but that's how boats should be, and if you insist you can put mats down, or snap-in.

Or a cabin-forward boat like Parker, and add deck chairs.
 
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