Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

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jasonalden

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I am considering re-powering and doing so with a new Yamaha. The boat is a 1998 Hurricane Fun Deck 201 which has a sticker showing that 200HP is the max engine it will handle.<br /><br />I see my choices are:<br />Four Stroke (583 lb for 200HP)<br />HPDI (466 lb for 200HP)<br />V MAX (539 lb for 200HP)<br />Two Stroke (426 lb for 200HP)<br />( From the Yamaha website: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard/overview.aspx )<br /><br />My current Motor is a 1997 Yamaha 150 (approx. 410lbs)<br /><br />Looking over the specs, am I understanding that HPDI and VMAX are both 2 strokes (just beefed up).<br /><br />I am looking for reliability and longevity, then for ease of maintaining as well as fuel efficiency. Also not looking to "break the bank".<br /><br />I was maxing out at about 38mph with my current motor at WOT (about 5000RPM). I would like to get some more top end speed if I can.<br /><br />Thoughts & opinions please.
 
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Re: Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

358lbs is for the 115hp
 
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Hi,<br />I checked out some pictures and specifications of Hurricane Fun Deck 201 and it seems 150 hp is rather good choice even if it can handle 200 hp.<br /><br />In 150-175 hp range I would check out Suzuki DF150 and DF175 (weight 465-474 lbs).<br /><br />Yamaha F150 would also be a good choice (466 lbs).<br /><br />Mercury Verado 150-175 hp maybe can be a good alternative also (but little heavier, 510-527 lbs).<br /><br />I use Yamaha myself, F115 4-stroke. I like it and it has so far worked fine (I have used mine since 2003).<br /><br />It seems a 200 hp 4-stroke will be on the heavy side for your boat.<br /><br />Evinrude E-tech 200 2-stroke Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), Fresh- or Saltwater models, are rather light (419 lbs).<br /><br />Honda BF150 4-stroke is also rather light (475-485 lbs). <br /><br />Good luck!<br />/Bo
 
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Re: Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

Thanks for the info Gents<br /><br />I have my eyes setting sight on a model year 2004 Yamaha 200 HPDI as a dealer I found has had it sitting in his showroom all this time (never run, never in salt water). He's telling me he can let it go for dealer cost of $10,800 (motor only, installation & instruments extra). <br /><br />Can any of you mechanics tell me if there is any reason I should avoid the model year 2004 and go with model year 2006 of this motor? Are we looking at any defects in the 2004 model year motor? <br /><br />I also need to find out what a 2006 runs brand new to see if I'm saving any money by considering the 2004 model...<br /><br />Thanks again guys.
 
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Deckboats are not inherently built for speed and therefore I believe you will find a 200HP overkill. I anticipate you also use the boat for watersport towables and will usually find most folks pulling safely at less than 25mph. <br /><br />I personally have a 2004 Yamaha F 150 and am pleased with it. It is on a 20ft Polar bay boat which exceeds 40 MPH on fresh water and nearly 45 MPH in salt water. I am upgrading to a SS Performance prop this year and expect to see a little more MPH.
 
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Re: Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

I see new 200 HPDI's at Ed's for $10,999. Enjoy the new engine.
 
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(link removed)<br /><br />What is the deal with Ed's...is this company pretty well known and respected?? I never heard of them before yesterday...<br /><br />Also, does Yamaha no longer make a Saltwater Series line? I will be using my engine in saltwater only.<br /><br />tks all...
 
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Whatever you decide, I believe your old engine was overpropped. It should be capable of turning more RPM's. <br /><br />A 150 may be capable of more than you think, if propped right. The 200 should be a stellar performer, if propped right.
 
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Re: Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

Originally posted by jasonalden:<br /> Is this the same Ed I heard of:<br /> http://www.edsmarinesuperstore.com/yamaha.htm <br /><br />What is the deal with Ed's...is this company pretty well known and respected?? I never heard of them before yesterday...<br /><br />Also, does Yamaha no longer make a Saltwater Series line? I will be using my engine in saltwater only.<br /><br />tks all... [/QU <br /><br />I bought from Ed's and had it shipped to a dealer here that had agreed to rig it for me. I believe all Yamahas are OK for salt water, but I would continue normal care.<br /><br />PS don't post links to places that compete with iboats since they are our hosts :cool:
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Re: Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

In theory, with a 200HP, if I match the prop properly or even slightly under propped, could that help me decrease wear on the engine?
 
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jason,<br /><br />I believe you are correct. I was short of saying that led to your failure because you did not mention you had one.<br /><br />Your assessment is correct. A max. HP engine can be underpropped and underworked to provide years of enjoyment. I still believe a correctly propped 150/175 would be fine. If you go the 200 route, don't forget that you don't have to use it ALL, all the time.<br /><br />Buy what you want and enjoy. Pay special attention to prop. selections and go for the top end of the RPM range, with an average load. Insist on it, regardless of what the dealer says.<br /><br />Deck boats tend to be heavily loaded.<br /><br />Enjoy, keep us posted.
 
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jasonalden

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Re: Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

I was talking with a dealer recently, and he made a good point I wanted to ask you all about.<br /><br />Since I am considering repowering from a 150 to a 200 HP, and I currently have "cable steering", it was suggested to me to consider "hydrolic steering". Now I did not ask to find out if that means "power steering/assist". So I don't know really what the advantage "hydrolic steering" has over "cable steering".<br /><br />Are any of you running 200 HP or higher with cable only steering, and if so, how is your steering? Is it difficult, unsafe, or problematic in any way??
 
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Re: Considering Re-Powering w/Yamaha Ouboard - But What Model?

200 hp - personally I would get a hydralic steering system like Teleflex SeaStar.<br /> Link <br /><br />Although for example a mechanical steering like Teleflex NFB 4.2 can handle larger outboard I would not use it on 150 hp and up.<br />I have myself a NFB 4.2 with my Yamaha F115 4-stroke and it handle that engine fine and steering is easy at all speeds (max 40 knots in my case).
 
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