Re: Court Restores Inmates' Voting Rights
Quote boomyal
Why is it that Liberals are now attempting to deconstruct all that had been learned throughout the history of mankind, while this society continues to crumble around them?
Deconstruct all that had been learned throughout history of mankind.
What a bunch of BS
Only in your [tunnel vision /definition] of what a liberal is. Very wide brush of what is called a liberal, very narrow brush of what is called in his mind only, as the true Conservative.
Boomyal quoting double talk??? "
"Liberals believe that defining right and wrong is the beginning of the problem, while conservatives believe that defining right and wrong is the beginning of the solution . . .
The conservatives believe that defining right and wrong is the beginning of the solution.
Lets look at a problem shall we?
Here is a hypothetical case. Johnny got caught with a bit of pot, class 4 felony, he was broke and couldnt pay for an attorney, he was appointed a public defender.
Defining wrong, Johnny was wrong for having the pot a felony
(Yes)
Johnny lives in a state that has been taken over by the Consertives, and of course they cut funding to the Public defenders so they can build more prisons. It is the fastest growing industry in the state. Most of the jobs that used to pay well went to china.
Shall we continue the case to its finally? Public defender has an overload of cases, he can only spend about two hours on any one case, and so he tries to get Johnny to cop a plea. Johnny says whats the deal? P.D. says that if you cop to felony 4th possession, we can get you out with time served. So Johnny says wow, what a deal seeing he has been in the can for thirty days and couldnt make bail that means in his mind the he is out in about two days counting time served .
Of course he isnt thinking about the future, as he is in the can sharing a cell with
Big Bubba that is looking at thirty to life for a string of armed robberies. Bubba has been in there for about eleven months, and he has been
Oooo how shall I say it, and get it past the Nannies
Lets just say that he was looking at
Johnny with a lustful eye. In the conservative mind I believe we have defined what Johnny did was wrong and he is getting his just rewards.
Johnny says wow I got out of that mess without having to fight big bubba for my dignity. Now were getting into the gray area, did Johnny serve his time?
Answer (yes thirty days worth ) he has the conviction to prove it. Still cant vote, did Johnny do the right thing? Well he served his time. In my opinion that would/should be defined as the right thing to do.
Unless you think that there never can be anything that will make up for the wrong deed of getting caught with a bit of pot in youre possession. Of course he is serving a life term of not voting isnt he?
So did Johnny Pass the conservative diffination for doing the right thing?
(Yes) he paid his dues but still cant vote.
But he can serve in the Senate of State, and Federal, government
any body but me see any thing wrong with this?
Years later Johnny has got his act together, got married has a family, decides to run for the U.S. Senate seat in his district, seeing as he has already been a State Senator for two terms. Its rather ironic in Johnnys mind that he could have served in the state house two terms, and run for the U.S. Senate, and still not legally vote doesnt it? We have delved into what I think is the thought process of the conservative mind; lets venture into the
dreaded liberal mind shall we.
He can serve in the Senate of State, and Federal, government
any body but me see any thing wrong with this?
<<<<There are three, and only three positive qualifications
for Representative in Congress set out in the United States Constitution: (1) age (25
years); (2) citizenship (7 years); and (3) inhabitancy (one must be an inhabitant
of the State from which chosen when elected).>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Qualifications
Liberals believe that defining right and wrong is the beginning of the problem,
Lets break that down a bit, and see if It was a liberal, Are a Conservative, that put that inthe Constitution . Damn the founding fathers why didnt the declare themselves, seems that the people that put that into the Constitution didnt put labels on themselves, shucks how can we divine it when they dont label themselves?
Taking away voting rights for life for minor Felonies is wrong (liberals defined) as wrong. (Yes)
Seems that it is rather simple to figure out, give people another chance to make things right before prison time, and seems to be a lot of chances to lock them up later and throw away the key.
Look at the cost of incarcerating some one for a year, as apposed to locking them up especially the non-violent offenders. Cost effectiveness should be the first thing in a true conservative mind I would think.
Yes thats the right thing to do.
(Problem solved) and at less cost to boot.
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