Cutting cable TV

aspeck

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Old school, what replaced HDMI?
My TV’s are old school because they do not have HDMI ports ... guess I should have written that out a bit clearer ... the one is a 42 inch cabinet CRT ... not sure how I will ever get rid of that monstrosity! Will need a crane to remove it! LOL!
 

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Us canucks are not immune from outrageous cable service prices either.Today I upgraded my stoneage internet with 25 mbps download speed to 750 mbps and of course my bill increases 40 cnd.To save money im considering kemo iptv which over a year would save me over a grand!Thousands of channels.Not one younger person I know has cable tv its all internet tv.
 

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Ways to watch local TV

One of the problems in the digital TV age is cable and satellite does not carry all local channels. They do not carry any sub-channels, only the primary channel. Below is part of the channel guide for Atlanta;

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On satellite I could only watch CBS on channel 46 and CW69 on channel 69. I mean who wants to watch Dr. Oz and Jerry Springer? What if I want to watch Laramie on 46.3 or The Rifleman on 69.4?

Using an Over the air Antenna

I got into this because of a screw up by the DirectTV tech that services the system for my apartment complex. The receiver lost it's lunch during a thunder storm and when he setup the new receiver he somehow added MeTV in place of another channel I never watched and I stumbled over it. Well, MeTV is great if you like old shows like Hitchcock Presents, Twilight Zone, Perry Mason or old westerns. Then he re-programed and put the original channel back in.

So I got an amplified digital antenna and plugged it into the antenna port on my TV and did the channel setup and found 50 some digital channels. I was beside myself with glee. Then I started going up and down with the channels.

The picture was great, far better than the satellite picture on the channels that worked. I had to fiddle with the antenna just like playing with old rabbit ears, it is very direction sensitive. Even when I got good reception, it would drop out for seconds at a time or the picture would tear a lot. Not real happy.

Over the Internet

I was talking with a neighbor and he suggested trying https://www.locast.org/ and I'm glad I did. I run it through a laptop and cast to a Chromecast. Go to the channel guide, click on a station, click on Watch and a small preview pops up and then click on the Cast symbol. In a few seconds the my show is in front of my eyes. Outstanding picture quality and no drop outs or tearing.

Locast has two drawbacks;
  1. It isn't available nationwide and when you first go to the site it will ask to detect your location. As long as you're in a coverage area, it will choose the local channels for the area. You can get around that by using a VPN to fake a location. Here is decent write up on Locast and using a VPN - https://vpnpost.com/vpn-for-locast/
  2. Locast is free with a catch. They ask for voluntary $5/month donation with a 50 cent processing fee. If you don't ante up, they do what they call a subscription break, I call it a nag. You have to restart the service after every nag and just like live over the air TV, you miss what was on during the break. The nags are temporarily suspended due to COVID, so now is a good time to try it and 5 bucks isn't much to get all the local channels in your area.
THANK YOU!

I just signed up for Locast and it immediately popped up 46 local channels for us. FORTY-SIX! :eek:

It looks like Locast has a bunch of the channels that I'm paying for on Sling (and previously paid for on CATV) but I don't watch a lot of them anyway.

It's really nice getting the local weather coverage back. And there are a couple shows that I wanted to see on the big networks but which weren't available on Sling.

Much appreciated for the info! (y)
 

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Wish locast was in my area :(
Not even close like Nashville of Louisville
 

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I agree, alldodge. I checked out locast and I got nothing.
 

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Might be worth it to get a VPN (extra 3 to 6 mth) and then fake out the location for a place like Atlanta, New York or other city to watch local channels
 

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Have any of you ever heard or used IPTV? Seem if you have a Firestick or smart TV or something down that capability, you can get IPTV and there are lots of channels. Don't know enough about it to know if it is worthy or not. Just know I can get them stations for free...and there are a lot of channels too.
 

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YouTube TV has a good channel lineup including locals. It's not quite as easy to navigate as a DVR but I'm learning to get used to it. It's a lot cheaper than cable/satellite. I'm stuck with Spectrum for my internet.
 

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YouTube TV has a good channel lineup including locals. It's not quite as easy to navigate as a DVR but I'm learning to get used to it. It's a lot cheaper than cable/satellite. I'm stuck with Spectrum for my internet.
We are listing videos to our favorite library account on YouTube and then log into the net from our smart TV and call up our favorite list from YouTube for free. We've been doing that for a long time now. You can watch everything from how-to's to full length movies, at no cost. And the items of interests seems endless. No, you can't get the latest box-office hit movies, but we don't seem to be drawn to them anyways. We are more older shows for our likings. Not so much political and racial issues with the older series. Just more decent family viewings!
 

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Okay guys, I just dumped SlingTV and closed my account. The service just sucks. The DVR kept getting "lost" during playback. It would skip around, repeat itself, insert extra commercials and the FF/REV function was sporadic at best. And the Guide was terrible. However, I'll really miss all the fishing channels. 🎣

So, I signed up for Hulu a few minutes ago. It's 50% more expensive than SlingTV for the same service. I only took the 7-day free trial and will be testing it out. But, it's likely that I won't stay.

I've also been getting "come back to us" snail mail from Spectrum. I'll be calling them sometime this week to see what they can offer.

My original Spectrum bill was $250/mo. By dropping to internet plus SlingTV I cut it in half down to $125/mo. With Hulu, it would go back up to about $160/mo., so it's better than my original, but still not great.

Maybe someday some company will actually offer a la carte service. Maybe. :rolleyes: :sneaky:
 

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Okay guys, I just dumped SlingTV and closed my account. The service just sucks. The DVR kept getting "lost" during playback. It would skip around, repeat itself, insert extra commercials and the FF/REV function was sporadic at best. And the Guide was terrible. However, I'll really miss all the fishing channels. 🎣

So, I signed up for Hulu a few minutes ago. It's 50% more expensive than SlingTV for the same service. I only took the 7-day free trial and will be testing it out. But, it's likely that I won't stay.

I've also been getting "come back to us" snail mail from Spectrum. I'll be calling them sometime this week to see what they can offer.

My original Spectrum bill was $250/mo. By dropping to internet plus SlingTV I cut it in half down to $125/mo. With Hulu, it would go back up to about $160/mo., so it's better than my original, but still not great.

Maybe someday some company will actually offer a la carte service. Maybe. :rolleyes: :sneaky:
Why are you paying so much for Hulu Live, top package?
 

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Why are you paying so much for Hulu Live, top package?
I signed up for Hulu Live+ which is currently $55/mo but will be going up to $65/mo on Dec 18th. I also added another $15 for enhanced DVR. And my Spectrum internet is $75/mo. That'd put me at $155 plus taxes and bottle deposits. :ROFLMAO:

But, I won't stay at that level. I'll keep looking around.

Spectrum has a plan which includes internet plus 125 channels for $89/mo but they also have other "hidden" fees which would bring that price to about $110/mo. And that plan doesn't include a DVR or set-top boxes, which would push the price higher still.
 

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I hear ya. We started at $55/mth added unlimited DVR $10(not unlimited devices), wife is adding Starz for 8.99 that she'll turn on and off as needed. So we're saving a minimum of $65/mth, includes Hulus rate increase, over our cable which turned off channels like B1G and had a bunch that we never watched. Hulu Live has 99% of what we watched.
 

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I hear ya. We started at $55/mth added unlimited DVR $10(not unlimited devices), wife is adding Starz for 8.99 that she'll turn on and off as needed. So we're saving a minimum of $65/mth, includes Hulus rate increase, over our cable which turned off channels like B1G and had a bunch that we never watched. Hulu Live has 99% of what we watched.
Quite frankly, if I could find a way to keep the business show that I watch and then cut all the way back to basic Hulu or some other setup, I'd be doing that very thing.

Alas, that just isn't possible yet. :(

And even then I still wouldn't have a DVR. :cautious:
 

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I find it hard to pay for any TV if they are dumping commercials at me all the time. The commercials are paying their service bills, air time and transmission capabilities and they are making an extra killing charging the consumers too! Either pay, with no commercials, or make it free, not both! Time the citizens make them do that by boycotting them until they get the message. JMHO!
 

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Quite frankly, if I could find a way to keep the business show that I watch and then cut all the way back to basic Hulu or some other setup, I'd be doing that very thing.

Alas, that just isn't possible yet. :(

And even then I still wouldn't have a DVR. :cautious:
We use the DVR heavily hence going to unlimited....
 

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Yeah, me too. I now have the Hulu DVR set up to record The Simpsons and my biz show. Guess I'll be testing that out tomorrow.
Seems to work ok. Some shows you can zip thei the commercials, others you cant, that's a little frustrating....
 

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I made a boo-boo. Recorded the news this evening on Hulu and while watching I tried to fast forward through the commercials. No joy. I figured it out quickly enough. I'd selected the Expanded DVR option at sign-up but failed to hit the "Submit" button. D'oh! 😏

I've added it now and will test it tomorrow. 🙄

One thing that I noticed is that my DVR recording of The Simpsons is not available to watch until 0300 tomorrow morning. Waddup wit dat? 🤨
 
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