Day of silence

[thefairlaneman]

Re: Day of silence

From Wikipedia: "The Day of Silence is an annual day of action to protest the bullying and harassment of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students, and their supporters. Students take a day-long vow of silence to symbolically represent the silencing of LGBT students and their supporters."

Well, I don't agree with bullying or harassing anybody or anything.

Maybe the teachers just want a "quiet" day. I know I would.

Much ado about a non-event.

The teachers and school system are not the ones who have created this day, they just tolerate it.

 

[mscher]

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Keep your kid's home from school?

What, are they not aware that gay humans exist, that chances are good, that they already attending school with some of them?

They will probably care less one way or another, as most kid's do, but they should certainly be able to deal with it.

It's usually the parents that have a problem with it.

 

[jcsercsa]

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I can't help myself... I thought of this HORRIBLE pun and had to share it...

I could go both ways on this issue.

That was so aweful I should apologize, so I'm sorry.

hahahaha ohhhh man that was so bad so so bad !!! lol john

 

[v1_0]

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Day of silence, eh? GOOD! Perhaps there will be more learning going on that day in schools.

 

[Turin]

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It would be a teacher s dream that the kids would be silent for one day (they can still write)
you can tell them every thing and get no questions.
and you don't have to wait for them to shut up before you can start class

 

[Nandy]

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They can observer silence anywhere else. While at school they need to be doing the school work.

 

[SgtMaj]

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Day of silence, eh? GOOD! Perhaps there will be more learning going on that day in schools.

Might be hard to learn if the teacher's not talking. What Wikipedia doesn't mention is that it's not just a student thing. Several schools will be participating (as in the school administration and teachers).

They can observer silence anywhere else. While at school they need to be doing the school work.

My thoughts exactly.

Wether straight, gay, or bisexual, sexual preference really doesn't have any place in schools. What do kids who should be studying need to worry about that stuff for? It's kind of silly to me, both the original protest, and the rebuttal which seeks to introduce religion into public schools, which is another thing that shouldn't be there. Kids are there to learn reading, writing, arithmatic, logic, history...

As far as "teaching tolerance" is concerned... that's something that should NEVER be done. Not because tolerance is bad, but because kids start out completely tolerant. They only learn intolerance from us, and the more we "teach tolerance", the more intolerance they are learning from us.

Besides, the kid in CA that all these students and teachers want to pine over, wasn't beaten up because he was gay. He was beaten up because he was unpopular, and he was unpopular because of his personality, not his sexuality.

 

[cheburashka]

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Might be hard to learn if the teacher's not talking. What Wikipedia doesn't mention is that it's not just a student thing. Several schools will be participating (as in the school administration and teachers).

I've seen nothing that backs this up. The day of silence was designed as a student-led protest. Can you cite some examples of school administrations and teachers who are participating? If they are, they're pretty much violating the spirit of the protest.

As far as "teaching tolerance" is concerned... that's something that should NEVER be done. Not because tolerance is bad, but because kids start out completely tolerant. They only learn intolerance from us, and the more we "teach tolerance", the more intolerance they are learning from us.

Kids are tolerant at the age of four. From that point forward, they learn intolerance from us. If we're accidentally teaching them intolerance, shouldn't we counter by purposefully teaching them tolerance as well? I don't understand how teaching them to tolerate others will make them less tolerant. Can you explain this?

Besides, the kid in CA that all these students and teachers want to pine over, wasn't beaten up because he was gay. He was beaten up because he was unpopular, and he was unpopular because of his personality, not his sexuality.

I don't know where you're getting your information, but the kid they "want to pine over" was shot to death because he was gay. Lawrence King was harassed and called names at school because of his sexual orientation. One of the kids who had been tormenting him eventually brought a gun to school and killed him with it.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Self edited for intolerance....​

 

[QC]

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Bad people do bad stuff. Good people don't . . . When tolerance is used as a code word to suggest that all practices, of all people are equal and OK, then I jump off the bus. Should we be tolerant of polygamists from fundamentalist Mormon sects? If not, why? We insure freedom of religion in this country, and we are supposed to be tolerant of alternative life styles. What sets them apart?

 

[Turin]

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The teachers cant be silent all day that would be refusing of work so you'll be firered at ones

 

[cheburashka]

Re: Day of silence

Bad people do bad stuff. Good people don't . . . When tolerance is used as a code word to suggest that all practices, of all people are equal and OK, then I jump off the bus. Should we be tolerant of polygamists from fundamentalist Mormon sects? If not, why? We insure freedom of religion in this country, and we are supposed to be tolerant of alternative life styles. What sets them apart?

First off, I don't think tolerance is used as a code word to suggest that all practices of all people are equal and OK. I will not tolerate things that harm me or other people. I will not tolerate things that take advantage of people who are weak, or young, or otherwise unable to defend themselves. That's where the polygamy argument becomes clearer.

Polygamy in and of itself is an alternative lifestyle. I have no problem with people who want multiple partners, provided that they are all of consenting age and that none of them was coerced through unfair means. The problem with the fundamentalist Mormon sects is that they are taking advantage of the naivete of these young girls as well as their inability to escape the situation they're in. The general consensus in the US is that people shouldn't be making decisions about marriage until they're old enough to do so responsibly. Also, the consensus is that no one should ever be forced into a marriage. In short, I'm willing to tolerate polygamy, but not statutory rape, brainwashing, or other forms of abuse of children.

In the end, I'd like to believe that bad people do bad stuff and good people do good stuff. However, I'm all too aware of the bad things done by good people in Nazi Germany, in Jim Crow America, and on school playgrounds. Sometimes you need to remind people what it means to be "good."

 

[SgtMaj]

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First off, I don't think tolerance is used as a code word to suggest that all practices of all people are equal and OK. I will not tolerate things that harm me or other people. I will not tolerate things that take advantage of people who are weak, or young, or otherwise unable to defend themselves. That's where the polygamy argument becomes clearer.

Polygamy in and of itself is an alternative lifestyle. I have no problem with people who want multiple partners, provided that they are all of consenting age and that none of them was coerced through unfair means. The problem with the fundamentalist Mormon sects is that they are taking advantage of the naivete of these young girls as well as their inability to escape the situation they're in. The general consensus in the US is that people shouldn't be making decisions about marriage until they're old enough to do so responsibly. Also, the consensus is that no one should ever be forced into a marriage. In short, I'm willing to tolerate polygamy, but not statutory rape, brainwashing, or other forms of abuse of children.

One problem, no evidence has been found of any underage sexual activity or underage marriage going on in that Texas compound. In fact, that pregnant teen that called emergency services, turned out be a 30 year old woman from Colorado who was arrested a couple days ago for that. Gotta love the post Waco, all compounds must abuse children, fear mongering media...

It should be noted however, that poligamy is still illegal in this country, however there simply isn't a punishment that fits, as having two wives nagging at you is far worse than going to jail.