Death of the Sun and Global Warming

[tommays]

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The Sun is the most powerful force in our solar system and without it, life on Earth would not exist. But the Sun is violent and volatile and is becoming more dangerous as it ages. Naked Science explores the life and death of the Sun and its potential future. Through help of the foremost experts in their fields, Naked Science examines the tough questions. How and when will the Sun die? And could the Earth survive in the process?



I guess you can get any answere you want if you ask the right people and edit for the outcome you want



Tommays

 

[QC]

Re: Death of the Sun and Global Warming

I guess you can get any answere you want if you ask the right people and edit for the outcome you want

Yup . . . even those that are supposedly unbiased

Anybody notice the bashing of the chief of NASA? He dared to question the absolute "debate is over" crowd and he gets trashed. As the #1 Rocket Scientist on the planet, I am thinking he has a clue . . .

 

[Bass Man Bruce]

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At some point the sun will go supernova and fry the Earth, so quickly visit the beer thread for survival tips.

 

[kenimpzoom]

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We are all gonna die..... now. Nope, how bout.....now. Whoops, how about .................................................... now.

Doomsayers need a different hobby, I suggest studying the history of the earth.

Ken

 

[OldMercsRule]

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At some point the sun will go supernova and fry the Earth, so quickly visit the beer thread for survival tips.

Actually, Our sun does not have the mass to go: "supernova" Bruce, but it likely will swell up in size as it runs out of hydrogen, (and fry the place: earth), prior to collapsing to a white dwarf type cinder. Sorry to be a know it all smart arse. Respectfully JR

 

[stevieray]

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Actually, Our sun does not have the mass to go: "supernova" Bruce, but it likely will swell up in size as it runs out of hydrogen, (and fry the place: earth), prior to collapsing to a white dwarf type cinder. Sorry to be a know it all smart arse. Respectfully JR

JR - This is the kind of stuff that should be common knowledge - professing it does not make one a "know it all". There's only x-number of hydrogen atoms & x-amount of gravity to keep that nuclear furnace going - simple physics. If we haven't been wiped out by an asteroid strike or obliterate ourselves by then, that is the way it's going to end (unless we find a habitable planet in another system & figure out how to get our tuchises there, it will be the end of our race as well). There is no guessing or conjecture about it - we can see it going on all over the universe.

 

[jinx]

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"To smash the simple atom
Has long been man's intent.
Now any day,
The atom may,
Return the compliment."

 

[OldMercsRule]

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JR - This is the kind of stuff that should be common knowledge

Agreed, but it is likely not.

- professing it does not make one a "know it all".

It kinda does: Stevieray. You and I know the current cosmology theories that discribe our situation. When I correct another's post, (who may also know the theory, and may have just wanted to make a point, and was not carefull to make their point within the current theory), it does make me a bit of a smart arse.

There's only x-number of hydrogen atoms & x-amount of gravity to keep that nuclear furnace going - simple physics. If we haven't been wiped out by an asteroid strike or obliterate ourselves by then, that is the way it's going to end (unless we find a habitable planet in another system & figure out how to get our tuchises there, it will be the end of our race as well). There is no guessing or conjecture about it - we can see it going on all over the universe.

Yes, it is a very cornvincing theory, but you and I know further discoveries could explain what we see in a TOTALLY different format. There is a lot of mass out there that we can't see, (yet we can see the effects of the gravitational pull), so a unified theory will be difficult until that extra mass is explained. We also may know more of the nature of God when that happens. Respectfully, JR

 

[treedancer]

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I guess it?s kinda like a squirrel getting flattened on the road by a Suv, are a 18 wheeler, to flappy the squirrel it don?t make much difference. He?s still crow dinner.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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I guess it?s kinda like a squirrel getting flattened on the road by a Suv, are a 18 wheeler, to flappy the squirrel it don?t make much difference. He?s still crow dinner.

Yup Mr. Tree, yer right. Likely the violence from a pre supernova large mass star would smoke us well before the actual SN explosion anyway.

Let's just hope that Eta Carinae does not have one of her poles pointin' at us when she finally blows.

If ya know much about the wonders out there, we are very lucky to have the relative stability that gives life on this rock a chance to live. JR

ps: a few purple, (actually blue, purple is a little too fem fer ol' Murky livin' in "Gay Bay North"), pixels yer way I say!

 

[Bondo]

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Ayuh,...............

You Guys Think you've got this thing All figured out,............ Pretty Smart bunch you are...............

No Wonder the Liberals have been Winning,..............
They've Already figured out how to Tax it........................

 

[treedancer]

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Quote OMR


ps: a few purple, (actually blue, purple is a little too fem fer ol' Murky livin' in "Gay Bay North"), pixels yer way I say!


Kinda like the paragraphs too.

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: Death of the Sun and Global Warming

Ayuh,...............

You Guys Think you've got this thing All figured out,............ Pretty Smart bunch you are...............

No Wonder the Liberals have been Winning,..............
They've Already figured out how to Tax it........................

Oh how true Bond-o!!!

I think Arnie was the one who pointed out that the first flush of the terlet after ya get up in the morning is taxed.

If they could figure out how to tax breathin' they'd do it, and Democrat voters would gladly vote fer it, n' claim the Cornservatives were cheap 'r mean spirited fer not supportin' the tax that would help some poor victim the Libs wanted to make a permanent Democrat victim!!!! JR

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: Death of the Sun and Global Warming

Quote OMR


ps: a few purple, (actually blue, purple is a little too fem fer ol' Murky livin' in "Gay Bay North"), pixels yer way I say!


Kinda like the paragraphs too.

That's my response to Boom's spankin' Mr. Tree!!

 

[ob]

Re: Death of the Sun and Global Warming

If the Mayans are correct a global catastrophe is scheduled for Dec 23 2012.Other soothsayers as Nostradomus had 2012 as a significant date as well,however the Mayans were much more precise in their timetable of events.If both are wrong ,it is estimated to be a mere 4-5 billion more years until the sun begins its stage as a red giant.Based on records of survival for global spieces,I don't think the suns inevitable end will be coincided with our own.Of course as always,that's just my opinion.

 

[CN Spots]

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It's the Klingons we gotta watch out for.

 

[rwise]

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when it does happen this rock will survive, we will not. In school science class I was taught that we would go into a black hole before the sun went critical, either way I nor my great great great grand kids will live long enuf to see it happen, and we can't change it anyway, so tell me again, why worry about it?

 

[QC]

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If the Mayans are correct a global catastrophe is scheduled for Dec 23 2012

I thought it was 12/24/2011 I am not sure where I got my info . . . Where'd you get yours?

 

[Plainsman]

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when it does happen this rock will survive, we will not. In school science class I was taught that we would go into a black hole before the sun went critical, either way I nor my great great great grand kids will live long enuf to see it happen, and we can't change it anyway, so tell me again, why worry about it?

Yup, why worry about what might happen in 5 BILLION years.

 

[ob]

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I thought it was 12/24/2011 I am not sure where I got my info . . . Where'd you get yours?

Saw it on a semi recent special on either the history channel or discovery channel about some Mayan tablets that were recently translated.Strangely ,they are the only written artifacts that remain from the Mayan civilization and that before they were translated ,very little was known of their way of life or metodology.It touched on the meaning and origin of the symbols used in the Mayan calendar and how it related to past,present,and future events.Really interesting program.I'm almost certain it eluded to Dec.23 2012 as the date.I remember it striking me as oddly coincidental that the Mayans significance of the year 2012 was the exact year mentioned at least a decade ago to be the year that the Nostradomas had written about in his quatrains.Particularly since the two civilizations and time periods were so unrelated.Wierd stuff.I also remember telling my wife that Dec 23 would be just in time to ruin Christmas.