Deck work

[jbcurt00]

Re: Deck work

One thing I noticed was that there is only 1 engine mount on the forward end of the motor, and none on the aft end, does anyone knee if that's the way it's supposed to be? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Pix of the motor mount & the thru transom outdrive plate on the transom might be helpful... But the motor should 'mount' to that plate at the rear of the motor, and have a motor mount at the front.

I have some friends up here in northern Illinois who keep telling me that pressure treated wood for stringers and deck are fine, any advice to that?

Use the advanced search feature from the forum homepage, and search: pressure treated plywood

How many boats have your friends rehab'd & kept for more then a couple years?

 

[Miguel847]

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Will get the pics tomorrow, but in regards to rehab'n boats he's done a few in the last 6 years or so. I have watched friscoboater's videos on YouTube over and over and he didn't use marine grade plywood, and it came out awesome. Just trying to get some ideas from the experts is all, I appreciate everyone's response.

 

[Woodonglass]

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The problem with PT wood is that it's usually wet and it can take several weeks for it to dry enough for it not to adversely affect it has on when trying to encapsulated it with resin and glass. If you have the time and patience to dry it out then there's no reason not to use it. It is Not waterproof, no wood is not even marine grade. Any good exterior grade plywood that is properly prepped and encapsulate in glass will last for multiple decades.

 

[Miguel847]

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The problem with PT wood is that it's usually wet and it can take several weeks for it to dry enough for it not to adversely affect it has on when trying to encapsulated it with resin and glass. If you have the time and patience to dry it out then there's no reason not to use it. It is Not waterproof, no wood is not even marine grade. Any good exterior grade plywood that is properly prepped and encapsulate in glass will last for multiple decades.

If you we're to use another type of wood besides marine plywood, which would you recommend?

 

[Woodonglass]

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The arauco plywood from Lowe's or Home Depot is some excellent stuff. If you go to a quality lumber yard and ask for Floor Floor underlayment it also uses waterproof glue in it's laminations. MDO is also very good stuff for Transoms Stringers and Decks.

 

[Miguel847]

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The arauco plywood from Lowe's or Home Depot is some excellent stuff. If you go to a quality lumber yard and ask for Floor Floor underlayment it also uses waterproof glue in it's laminations. MDO is also very good stuff for Transoms Stringers and Decks.

Thanks for the info! I've been communicating with Jay Friscoboater, and he also told me that B/C grade plywood is just as good. Is that the same? Does the fiberglass stick good to this plywood?

 

[Decker83]

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The arauco plywood has more layers of plywood than most B/C grade plywood. It will also have very few voids if any in it. The B/C plywood will work but the C side of the plywood is much more coarse and will have more voids in it. This makes it harder to glass on the C side. It can be used and is a little cheaper than the arauco. HD also carries a cabinet grade plywood that uses waterproof glue and is a little smoother than B/C ply and has more layers also.
As long as you do a good job glassing the plywood, it will not make much differance in which one you chose to use. The KEY is in the GLASSING.

 

[Miguel847]

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Awesome, thanks! Think I'm going to go with the arauco. It is sold here locally and its not that expensive, can I make the stingers o the same material?

 

[Miguel847]

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Any recommendations on where to buy all the supplies needed to redo the deck? With the exception of the wood. Just trying to get the best deals.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Yep, Stringers, Transom and Deck. It's Really good stuff. If you haven't done so already check out the first link in my signature below. Lot's of good info there on how to fabricate everything.

 

[JASinIL2006]

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That Arauco really is nice plywood. I'm doing my first transom/deck rebuild, but I've done a lot of woodworking and DIY stuff before, and Arauco is really high quality plywood. It seems to have no voids and it has more layers that most other plywoods. Nice stuff. I'll be using it for other non-boat projects as well.

Jim

 

[Decker83]

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Any recommendations on where to buy all the supplies needed to redo the deck? With the exception of the wood. Just trying to get the best deals.

Alot of gentlemen here use the U S Composites for the glass supplies..
If you can find your resin local it will save on the shipping cost.. I have a place close to me and pay about $128.00 a five gallon pail..
Saves me about $50.00 on shipping..There are some other places listed here if you do a search..
Wood always has good info for you.. Check him out for sure..

 

[Woodonglass]

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I believe Composites ONE has a store in Chicago. You could prolly save some shipping by ordering from them. At the very least they could possibly help you with a store close to your area.

TIP: When you Google instead of searching for Polyester Resin Suppliers Search for 1708 biax cloth. It gives a better result. If you find someone that sells it, more than likely they'll sell resin too!!!!

 

[Decker83]

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Here's another good TIP from Wood...^^^^:laugh:

 

[Miguel847]

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Thanks wood!!!! Found a store about an hour away from where I live. Will definitely check it put this weekend. Thanks for all the help from everyone. Unfortunately I have to stop working on the boat for about 1 month. Strained a muscle from a pre existing back injury, but that doesn't stop me from buying the supplies i need. Just trying to stay motivated to get this boat ready for the spring time.

 

[Miguel847]

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Quick question, and it might sound stupid. But since I can't do any work right now, and before I cut my stringers out, I'm working on taking measurements and drawing a diagram of the stringers. My question is when I cut the stringers and put them into place, how do I get them to stand straight up and be level with the deck? Any thoughts and answers would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance. Working on this and being in the military is tough, but I'm shooting for getting it done for spring time.

 

[Friscoboater]

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The arauco ply is not available at any of our HD or Lowes at all. I think I told you B/C but I think I used A/C, as I just got some for my latest project. Sorry for the miss information. From what I have seen, that is what ARAUCO is. It is listed on Lowes website as 4X8 ARAUCO PLYWOOD ACX. The A os for the top face and is the smoothest, the C is for the bottom and is slightly rough, and the X means exterior grade. I think marine grade would be AAX, or ABX. Almost all quality ply at Lowes or HD (unless you go with marine grade) will be A/C for a good quality sheet of wood. Anything higher, and you will have to special order it.

What we do as builders is over think all of the wood. Like someone said before, glass is the key. Pick through the stack and find the best A/C there and run with it. With good glass work you can make foam as strong as steel.

Here is a good read

http://www.doityourself.com/forum/outdoor-lumber-exterior-paneling-exterior-sidings/301464-what-acx-plywood.html#b

 

[Friscoboater]

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Check out this video. It might help with your stringer question.