Deep Creep

[rickdb1boat]

Re: Deep Creep

Don't know if it helped, but I like the pics....

 

[timmathis]

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River runner ,Nice pic's. You must have been in good shape to start with. Hey you can get your money back. That is one of the good things with sea foam. Also it seems that smaller motors such as yours don't seem to have as much carbon build up as the larger ones we work on for some reason. May be due to they are not luged as much as the larger ones in some cases?? If it is full of carbon you sure will see black smoke for sure and if done on muffs you can have a mess on the drive way and or house etc. Like you said you were clean to start with. You never know it may have helped you in the future with cleaning the fuel system. Thanks for your input. Tim

 

[Bwalker]

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I wouldnt be so sure the smoke and mess is indicative of Sea Foam working. The same mess and smoke can be generated when fogging your engine for winter storage.
The smoke and gunk coming out the exhaust is unburnt and partially burnt Sea Foam.
When I tried the stuff it left the tell tale mess, but upon inspection I couldnt tell anything happened. I think in order to work properly the engine must be under load for the reasons that member Zmoz mentioned.

 

[timmathis]

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Fogging can and will decarb one also. Like said above you can decarb with water.
Fogging will not fix a dirty carb like sea foam can. Plus seafoam is a good fogging oil also.

 

[cougar1985]

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when i did my 90 rude i took the plugs out and liberalys sprayed the motor and let sit for 2 hours at least. when i restarted the neighborhood dissapeared in the smoke.before doing high idle was 1000 rpm max. shortly after 3000rpm. something happened for sure it now runs like new.i troll quite a lot so my motor is probably loading up with gunk etc. im sold on it.

 

[timmathis]

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Thanks cougar. Another good example on what it can do. Just last week my brother-n- law bought a sea-doo jet boat. It has set for 4 years it would not plane out or idle. He was told at the dealership it would need a $600.00 carb job for all 4 carbs. I put 1 can of seafoam with 3 gallons of fuel. $3.00 plus the fuel. and it runs like new and idles like a kitty cat. Saved him $597.00 .
I have seen deep-creep / seafoam bring the compression up from 60 lbs to 130 in one case for another example. That is why some shops and or people talk bad about it. It takes money out of their pockets!!!
Tim

 

[Bwalker]

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OK, whats the correct procedure for applying this stuff. As I mentioned before I applied it when the motor was out of the water while in gear at maybe 1/4 throttle.
I am thinking the best way to apply might be to remove the cowl and the intake silencer and spray directly into the carbs will at full throttle with the motor trimmed down so as to put max load/heat on it.

 

[timmathis]

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Careful Ben you should not run one much above idle on the muffs.
To clean the fuel system just add to the fuel as it says on the can.
For a decarb or a stuck ring we add seafoam heavy to the fuel supply and use Deep-Creep spray in the carbs. I run it until hot. Spray it until it starts to stumble then let it burn off 4 or 5 times in each carb.
Then I spray it heavy until it chokes down.
Then I let it cool down and repeat it 2 or 3 times that day.
On the last treatment I will pull the plugs spray it in each cylinder then I let it soak overnight.
The next day take it out and run WOT until all pre mix seafoam / fuel is used.
It should be clean as a whistle from there.
Or if it had a stuck ring it should be free.
Good Luck, Tim

 

[River - Runner]

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The follow up on my previous post.

Took the '69 25 hp. motor off and ran my other two motors on my same boat, a 14' FD Alumacraft. A '91 4 hp. and '04 40 hp. and had the same results as with the 25 hp. motor. Just a little white smoke sometimes. I used the same heavy mix, one can or 16 oz. to 3 gallons of gas and oil mix.

I took these pictures.

Some white smoke at first startup with the 4 hp.

No smoke.

Notice a little white smoke where I took off with the 40 hp. motor in the background. And the other times none.

Looks like these motors were also clean. I know Sea Foam is good to use for many reasons and I will use it again, but appears not to be necessary for me. I would think it would be like this for most users.

 

[ondarvr]

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A small amount of white smoke is all I ever got too, that was on 5 motors from 6HP to 200HP all carbed 2 strokes. Tried it on my daughters 94 Nissan with 170,000 miles on it, only got white smoke. I don't think it's bad suff though, my motors must have just been clean.

 

[timmathis]

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Seafoam keeps the fuel systems clean. And also is a good fuel stabilizer. With a money back guarantee how can you go wrong. And it is not the mail in type. You just take it back where you bought it.
Tim

 

[Ron G]

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It worked wonders on my motor,the first time i used it i sprayed it into the cyclinders then let it set for 2 hrs then i fired it up and watched it choke and smoke when it started to clear up i then sprayed it in the carbs until it choked up just kept on going from carb to carb,then i repeated the whole process again.then installed new plugs and it ran awsome.that was last year and im going to do it again here soon to see if i get any thing out.

 

[Rancherlee]

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worked great on my 55hp johnson. Before I had lots of carbon on the pistons (looking through the plug holes). I warmed it up for 5 minutes on the muffs till the head felt hot and killed the engine by slowly dumping seafoam into both carbs using a funnel with 2 small tubes attached. It took a good minutes or so to suck half the bottle into the carbs but it did (and it didn't smike much diring this period) THEN I let it sit for 20 minutes and restarted it (took quite a bit of cranking to get it to fire) and I had tons of smoke filling my back yard. I dumped the rest of the can in 3 gallons of gas and ran it through engine while pulling a tube (worked it hard). End result Is I pulled the plugs and I could see nice shinny piston crowns instead of caked on carbon and even the old crudy spark plugs looked like new again.