Defending the Bayliner

magster65 · Nov 29, 2002

I can't help it! I heard somewhere that Bayliner has sold as many boats as it's closest half dozen rivals combined. The reason is value, you get your moneys worth. I don't own a Bayliner but I would certainly consider one (I currently own a SeaRay). I've had the pleasure of being a gueast on a few, the nicest being a model 4788. It is an absolutely beautiful yacht! Obviously the people who are slandering Bayliner haven't been out in the real world for a couple/few decades. That last thread topic is almost embarrasing so lets get with it.

Attention neigh-sayers!

Take a look out in your driveway at your boat and I'll bet you dimes to donuts Bayliner makes a similar unit as good, if not better than your heap. You know it's true! You're probably slamming Bayliner to try and make yourself feel better because you're ashamed you paid more for the same product. Stick that in your antiquated pipe and smoke it. Long live Bayliner!

Mumblerone · Nov 29, 2002

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Your on the wrong post...I stick with my Whaler!

magster65 · Nov 29, 2002

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No I'm not. I started a new post in support of Bayliner. There was a lot of negativity on the other. Stick with your Whaler... I bet you paid triple what a Bayliner Trophy costs didn't you

Just like thier own stupid commercial, I wouldn't mind sawing one of those in half. hehehe (jokin') Be cool. My theory is that any boat is better than no boat... even a Whaler! Hey, I was thinking... since Bayliner has the majority of boats out there. The chances are that if any reader was concieved on a boat, it was more likely a Bayliner than any other. Getting a good product at a fair deal puts a smile on your face and a roll of quarters in your pocket. We know it wouldn't a Whaler, knowing you overpaid for a brand name would surely spoil the mood. Have a nice day.

magster65 · Nov 29, 2002

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After re-reading I should tell ya' that I don't work for Bayliner. Sorry too, my post reads a bit sassy but it's only for a laugh my friend. There's a 26' Whaler with twin 250's on it a couple boats down from me at the marina. What a machine! It's awesome. I just don't think we should bad-mouth the majority of our boating buddies choice of equipment. I always look forward to seeing friends or meeting new people when I'm out no matter what they're in. I know everyone feels the same. Have a great day. TGIF

martinwinte · Nov 30, 2002

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Most of the complaints against bayliner are for valid reasons (read ALL the post on this board), most of them are pertaining to Bayliner's "entry level" (read cheeper) boats. Even at that (most) of the people that own them here and have had problems (and repaired them) still say that Bayliner is a good value for the dollar. You do get alot of boat for a little money. I personally love the lines of a Bayliner. I have ridden in quite a few and I have no problem with that aspect of them either. I do know (heard it too may times before) they did have a problem with quality control at one time and in a company like Bayliner even a short time equals alot of boats in the world. I have looked at several Bayliners (used) and the floors in all but one of them was soft, so there is a problem there (IMHO). But a well maintained boat (even a bayliner)....(just a wise crack...), makes a huge difference,will last for a long time, and give years of enjoyment.

Mumblerone · Nov 30, 2002

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Magster65...appoligies accepted.

Now; when do we get to ride in your new Whaler?

SS MAYFLOAT · Nov 30, 2002

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People poke fun at them, especially when JD Power ranks them low. But I look at it this way.. AT LEAST THEY ARE ON THE LIST! There are alot of other manufactures that didn't make the list. Why is that? I like my used and abused Bayliner. I don't worry about haveing to be careful about keeping the new fit and trim finish. She has got that used look and I like it.

magster65 · Nov 30, 2002

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I wish! I can only imagine the price tag on the 26' Whaler... I'd probably pay off my stinkin' mortgage instead! We are looking to get a new boat and start a charter business (day cruises or fishing). We just might end up with a Bayliner yet! Check out the Bayliner model 3270 or 3218, tell me what you think of those units for the money. They're tough to beat! Here's a link of something that would be really good http://www.yachtworld.com/listing/y...checked_boats=1024693&currency=CAD&units=Feet If y'all were starting your own day charters, what would you look for? I'd really like some input. Thanks. Have a great weekend!

magster65 · Nov 30, 2002

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Oops, wrong link. Try this http://www.yachtworld.com/listing/y...t&currency=CAD&access=Public&listing_id=36104

11 footer · Nov 30, 2002

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Thats not a bad boat for the money. But what I do not get is that people say they like the lines of bayliner!!!!!????? Give me a break, the boats look like space ships. 11

kglinz · Nov 30, 2002

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I've spent a little time in a 3218. They are top heavy,and have round bottom. I think the designer previously designed canoes. Great accommodations.

mellowyellow · Nov 30, 2002

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(regardless of mfg.) who are you buying it from? does he/she have every receipt for everything ever done to the boat? was it kept in the garage/barn or was it in the yard un-covered for a couple years? "it ran good 3yrs ago" is a familiar post... most important, REALLY take a look around, inside and out to get a feel for how it's been taken care of. don't have a clue what to look for? then pay a few bucks for a professional survey before you shell out $10K for anything. if you're only spending $150, then take some time in the "search" section and educate yourself or ask the folks here. lastly, take her out the water and give her a test drive. don't tell me, show me.... just beware, buying a boat is usually a emotional experience. just my .02 M.Y. an ounce of prevention...

magster65 · Dec 1, 2002

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No doubt! My grandfather had a 36' Chris Craft when I was a 'mini me', and I 've owned a boat since I was 15, I'm 21 now... wait a minute... no I'm... OH MY GOD, I'M 37 NOW!

Anyways, even though I'm very familiar with the marine equipment I wouldn't buy a boat without a professional survey (well, a beater I would). That piece of paper makes getting insurance a whole lot easier if it passes and if it doesn't pass, you've just avoided getting ripped off. Money well spent and good advice! I'd say half of the boat owners don't have the foggiest idea about maintenance, what they have, how to look after it and especially what kind of condition the basic structure is in! I'm not ready to purchase the 3270, I'm still looking around and listening to the experience of others.

I'd like to see what some of you guys would buy if you were starting a charter business. We will use this for 'personal' business as well and we have about $50k Canadian to spend. If you have any 'boats to avoid stories' I'd like to hear them too.

Thanks people.

kglinz · Dec 1, 2002

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I don't know what you have in mind as a "charter". I've encountered some small charters operating out of Port Mc Neil with trawlers and doing a good business. They take a couple or maybe a couple and 2 kids. They have clients flying in from all over the US. Stay out at least a week. Boats use a skipper and one crew person. Serve good food. I would think the smallest boat you could use is a 40 Tolly Tricabin.

magster65 · Dec 1, 2002

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What I have in mind is to do 'day' charters with a tour of the Gulf Islands off lower Vancouver Island. The scenery here is second to none. The fishing here isn't awesome but it's ok. There's also a good chance of seeing porpoises, seals, whales, lots of eagles... etc. I think a large cockpit is most important, decent galley area and washroom and something stable in the water. I think someone not use to the swaying in the 'rollers' would get sea sick. Let's see... I'd be cleaning so uh... yeah, stable. I need/want a bridge and something that won't use a pooh-load of fuel too! I think diesels would be best but I don't know about that with my budget. It's a catch 22 sorta'.

kglinz · Dec 1, 2002

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Check out Sea Sport.

kglinz · Dec 1, 2002

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http://www.boondocksboats.com/Pages/usedboats.html Check the 27 with the volvo diesel

Mikedg · Dec 1, 2002

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Master 65: There is an existing charter company operating out of BC, (Desolation Sound Yacht Charters) utilizing Bayliner Motor Yachts, powered with diesels and Albin Trawlers as well. They were just featured on Boats & Places Television, (www.boatstsandplaces.com) showcasing the Bayliner on a trip to Desolation Sound. You may wish to check with them on the servicability, but if they're being chartered to a wide range of users they must be suitable for the charter business and hanging in OK.

JRJ · Dec 1, 2002

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Thanks kglinz for the link to Boon Docks. Good Luck with your charter deal magster65.

magster65 · Dec 1, 2002

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Thanks guys. That 27'/diesel looks awesome but that's USD. 69USD is over 105k here

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