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[timmathis]

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I would like to add that Champion is the leading manufacturer of igniters for jet engines also.. Far from any kind of junk. I would argue that they are the best you can buy for most applications. That is my opinion. Tim

 

[walleyehed]

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Yea Tim, I agree....they ain't the best for all..<br />However, for Johnrude yes,....for briggs, Tec., Kohler....Yes. I don't know where Johnrude stands but Briggs is Champion's Largest customer...as of last week, 240,000 plugs a DAY.<br />My Father has run/owned an auto/marine/lawn and power equipment shop for over 50 years...He's now 74 and is the longest standing dealer with Briggs, Tec., AND Kohler. I asked him last night about the problems he's had over the years with champion plugs...told him about a forum I'm on and the topic at hand. He laughed and said "they still haven't figured out how to install a plug".<br />In 50+ years, the only issue he remembers is finding a cracked ceramic on a champ out of the box...also said he remembered one that came in with just the threaded portion of the plug in the head...the internal part was gone.<br />He did say "they ain't worth a darn in any GM product", but then GM doesn't call for champs....<br />We go through anywhere from 400-600 RJ19LM plugs a week over the counter and in the shop. we just don't see the problems you speak of...

 

[BillP]

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Monoshock, <br />Don't let it bother you...just post your opinions and take the heat like the rest of us. <br /><br />If it makes you feel better AC (LA 47)plugs were in my experimental airplane and they worked fine. However, I changed to Champions later and they did ok too. I also flew behind NGKs in my Kawasaki powered ultralight plane but those made me pucker. I changed them often. Flying behind a plug that doesn't give reliable service puts a new meaning on pucker factor!<br /><br />There's more...Two of my automobiles have ACs and the other Bosch...no problems. All five of my outboards have Champions and one (Merc/Mariner)was switched from NGKs to Champs. NGKs would just quit sparking in under 50hrs...and this was a new motor and on random cyls. The system checked out A1. After this happened three times in under 100 hrs I changed to the matching Champs. Now they last until I do regular maintenance at 200-300hrs.<br />I've had more problems with NGK in all types of motors than any other plug and feel the same way about them you do on Champs. I can't figure out why my experience is different from others but it is.

 

[timmathis]

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Delete

 

[jtexas]

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respectfully disagree, Tim...this is my first reading of the thread, and what's left of it seems a pretty good discussion...wouldn't mind knowing about monoshock's experience though...obviously it's not favorable

 

[monoshock]

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[walleyehed]

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The title used to be, "Champion plugs-No thanks"<br />Appears as though Monoshock had a few come apart somehow, and decided they were junk for any application......???????

 

[timmathis]

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Basically, He had a couple of plugs that were probably broken during instalation? and they happen to be champion.. I know for sure that he could never convince anybody that champion plugs are no good!, Tim