Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

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Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

Lets not get to giddy on the surge working. Its just buying time till the Iraq’s decide that they want to be a country and run it themselves.

Sucess would be "a real big problem for us." Perhaps it would be for some of you -- and the enemy... But not a problem for me.

I guess if I were as vested in defeat, I might try to spin the good news into "another defeat" for the coalition too. But I believe democracy works much better than fascism and socialism. And since it is OUR DIME and their vote, they've voted for their own leadership and will continue to. No amount of propaganda will reverse it now. They have had a taste of freedom. They like it. There is little anyone can do to keep it from it's destination regardless of how many times you or alqueda try to derail it. If it's all the same to you, I'll "Get giddy" and stay that way. So,
"Do democrats want the surge to succeed?" NOT! And that is painfully obvious by your reply.
God Bless our Troops.

 

[RubberFrog]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

The demoquedas want failure and nothing less.

 

[treedancer]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

Quote Skinntwater


The democratic leadership has exibited blatant examples of the lowest of characture almost weekly for years.

Sadly you?re all to right Skinny, but also have to put that into context, with the leadership shown in the executive branch.

It?s kind of like when one votes, get a grip on the nose with one hand and learn to vote with the other.

 

[Skinnywater]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

Quote Skinntwater


The democratic leadership has exibited blatant examples of the lowest of characture almost weekly for years.

Sadly you?re all to right Skinny, but also have to put that into context, with the leadership shown in the executive branch.

It?s kind of like when one votes, get a grip on the nose with one hand and learn to vote with the other.

The leadership is confounding for sure, but it is hardly sleazy and slimey.

Dang tree, the democratic leadership is just as inept, if even slightly more, and are socialists to boot.
Seriously, they're everything you hate about the executive branch and more.

So much more..... they don't want the surge to succeed... they like taxpayer assisted partial birth abortions.....they like to tax....Hollywood type, birds of a feather........the sleaze man, the sleaze..........................................

Is this what your holding your nose for?

 

[treedancer]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

Quote Skinnywater


The leadership is confounding for sure, but it is hardly sleazy and slimey.

Dang tree, the democratic leadership is just as inept, if even slightly more, and are socialists to boot.
Seriously, they're everything you hate about the executive branch and more.


OK, hairsplitting time, in my inexpert opinion “sleazy and slimy “could be applied currently, to both parties (note italics). So, who has been in control of both the House, and Senate for the majority of the time the last seven years? ……The so called Republicans, they take” sleazy and slimy to new heights. Inept?. Socialist? I guess that depends upon ones perspective doesn’t it?


If you start dissecting any of the statements of career Politicians”, you can come up with enough BS Verbage to make any point you want. All you can do is look at their record, if in your district dump them, or campaign to get them out.


Hollywood types??? Comeeon Skinny what party has been staring at Mt Rushmore, looking for a spot to put “President Reagan “(a Hollywood type), what party is scrambling, yes even praying, for a TV star too declare himself a candidate, so he can come charging in like the Calvary at the last minute and save the grand old party that has been stolen from them by this bunch of incompetents.

Abortions? Personally I’m against them, as well as the tax structure as it stands now, see link provided, not the perfect solution but I think a good first step. I’ll go you one further, been carrying a firearm since I went on the road close to thirty years now. Legal in the state of Missouri, don’t know what concurrence they have with the other states I drive thru, that’s the chance I am willing to take.
Saved my bacon a time or two, never had to use it, just a few menacing gestures did the job. If I have to use it, so be it, I am well trained in firearm use, will let the Attorneys settle the aftermath.


http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

If in anybody eyes that looks like a socialistic position so be it. I’ll just ask you to take the present misadminstrtion out of the equation, compare my words and then see, where I would be on the Political landscape, just might surprise some on the board. The presence of this group idiots sometimes skews my thought process so much it is hard for me to stay focused, just want them to be gone.

 

[RubberFrog]

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They'll be gone soon enough. Regardless, no matter how incompetent the current republican leadership maybe, I wil never vote for anybody that supports murdering babies, mainstreaming gay marriage, giving my hard earned money to drug addict bums, promoting the demise of christian values while encouraging the growth of islam, retreating like cowards or appeasing our enemies, the list goes on and on (but you've read it all before).

 

[jbjennings]

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I am a republican but can think of not one thing that gw has done that I'm pleased with. I only voted for him because of the supreme court appointments that were coming up. He couldn't even accomplish that with a maj. repub. senate. yes, the problems with the war are good for democrats and that war should be a very well-deserved nail in the coffin of our next rep. candidate.
Gees, fellows, do you really think we can force those middle-easterners to get along with each other enough to have a democratic form of government? As we can see from 9-11 they don't place the same value on their own lives as we do, must less the lives of others. There is no way we can have a successful outcome over there. We all know what will happen as soon as we get out, if we ever get out. What have gw and cheney done that makes you so proud of them? The tax cut was a good thing for all, but it was all taken back and then some by fuel prices. Does anyone actually believe that the oil man from texas and the head of haliburton have nothing to do with the absolutely incredible price of oil? I haven't seen a gas shortage, it's always there,it's just too high. And we all know that they would build new refineries if they were needed that badly because it would be profitable to do so. Everybody likes making money! The new, useless branch of government he created, the debt the war has caused, etc. is going to put a stinking dem. in (prob. hilary) and they're going to use that as an excuse to tax us out of oblivion when they get in. Some republicans are just as bad as those cool-aid drinkers--no matter what a repub. does, we pat him on the back and say what a great job he's doing. Not me, I want a candidate I can get excited to vote for. Haven't seen him yet.
Very frustrated,
jbjennings

 

[OldMercsRule]

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I am a republican but can think of not one thing that gw has done that I'm pleased with.

Hmmmmmm, A self discribed "Republican" that allows the NY Times to really effect yer thinkin' n' frame events n' symantics eh? BTW: Welcome to iboats!!! I like yer posts, even though I'm pickin' on ya here!

I only voted for him because of the supreme court appointments that were coming up. He couldn't even accomplish that with a maj. repub. senate.

Hmmmmmmm, ya think Alito n' Roberts are worse then David Souter put there by GHWB #41 I guess? Hmmmmmmmm, I say!!!

yes, the problems with the war are good for democrats and that war should be a very well-deserved nail in the coffin of our next rep. candidate.

Hmmmmmm, I Republican who wants a Democrat fer Pres ya say!!! Hmmmmm.

Gees, fellows, do you really think we can force those middle-easterners to get along with each other enough to have a democratic form of government?

Hard tellin' not knowin', ya ever heard o' Turkey?

As we can see from 9-11 they don't place the same value on their own lives as we do, must less the lives of others. There is no way we can have a successful outcome over there.

OH, I see, where can I get my prayer rug??? Are you a Geopolitical expert of some sort, or do ya just have a real pessimistic crystal ball ya cornsult from time to time????

We all know what will happen as soon as we get out, if we ever get out.

Gee wizz Please share with me what we all know. I only have a single brain cell but I sure don't know what will happen. BTW: give up mind readin' please!!

What have gw and cheney done that makes you so proud of them? The tax cut was a good thing for all, but it was all taken back and then some by fuel prices.

I thought ya just said there was not one thing they have done you were proud of at the start of this rant, care to clear up this li'l slip (or is it a slip)??? I'm Proud of Both George Bush and Cheney for prosecutin' a relatively well executed war amoung many other things and I'm not even a "Republican" as you claim to be.

Does anyone actually believe that the oil man from texas and the head of haliburton have nothing to do with the absolutely incredible price of oil?

Yah, (but I only have one brain cell), yer soooooooo much smarter then I am share yer proof of the above statment fer us dim wits that lack mind readin' skills PLEASE!

I haven't seen a gas shortage, it's always there,it's just too high.

I guess ya took a nap n' did not notice India n' China then eh? Ever heard of the lil' corncept of supply n' DEMAND or is that to basic fer yer lofty "Republican" mind ta cornsider?

And we all know that they would build new refineries if they were needed that badly because it would be profitable to do so.

I sure don't know that, please share with us local dim wits why it would be a good idea to invest real heavy when the next President plans to take all those profits for herself ta play with eh?

Everybody likes making money!

Really? Hmmmmmm.

The new, useless branch of government he created, the debt the war has caused, etc. is going to put a stinking dem. in (prob. hilary) and they're going to use that as an excuse to tax us out of oblivion when they get in.

Please name the forth branch of Government, I musta been nappin' on that one.

Some republicans are just as bad as those cool-aid drinkers--no matter what a repub. does, we pat him on the back and say what a great job he's doing.

Hmmmmmmm. Ya think? Sounds like you've ben sippin' a drink or two.

Not me, I want a candidate I can get excited to vote for. Haven't seen him yet.
Very frustrated,

How 'bout Chuck Hagel????

jbjennings

Sorry ta take ya to task here but ya don't sound to Republican to me, maybe it's only me. Respectfully, JR

 

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Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

They'll be gone soon enough. Regardless, no matter how incompetent the current republican leadership maybe, I wil never vote for anybody that supports murdering babies, mainstreaming gay marriage, giving my hard earned money to drug addict bums, promoting the demise of christian values while encouraging the growth of islam, retreating like cowards or appeasing our enemies, the list goes on and on (but you've read it all before).

Read it all before, yes. But not all in one paragraph. Amen!

 

[jbjennings]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

I have to ask, what's so well executed about it? How many years have we been over there and accomplished absolutely nothing. for every school or hospital we build or any other thing we do to try and help them, they destroy it. Also, I can understand an increase in oil prices with China and India industrializing but come on, you really think that's why the price of oil has risen this fast? No, I don't want a democratic president. Yes, I was ranting but I simply can't believe why anyone would think he is doing a good job. The new branch of government
I'm speaking of is the Homeland security department. We're spending billions with this doing things like buying high-dollar speed boats to catch terrorists on the red river in shreveport, La. What a joke. I'm very disappointed in Bush, voted for him the 1st but not 2nd time. Have you looked at the vacancies in federal courts that Bush has not been able to fill?
Change my mind about him, I'm listening...
jbj

 

[OldMercsRule]

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I have to ask, what's so well executed about it?

Well for one thing, Turkey, (ya know: the Muslim country that seems to defy yer pessimistic rant), denied us access to their country and we wiped up the map in less then a month, (guess I'm easily impressed: right)? #2 We have been on the ground in a foriegn country over five years and less then 4000 of our precious soldiers are dead. Maybe you can share with me another war or maybe a long list of 'em where the foriegn power has done nearly so well.

How many years have we been over there and accomplished absolutely nothing.

Absolutely nothing eh? Have some more Kool aid or take another nap. Did ya here about elections n' a Cornstatution? Is Sadam still usin' electric drills or shredders? Ya got some smoke fer ol' Murky so I can see what you see???

for every school or hospital we build or any other thing we do to try and help them, they destroy it.

Really, so we are at the same place we were then? Where do ya get yer insights, been to Iraq r' are ya jus' readin' the NY Times? Is it yer smoke? Purdy good stuff ya have then?


Also, I can understand an increase in oil prices with China and India industrializing but come on, you really think that's why the price of oil has risen this fast?

Why yes, I do! Where is the Haliburton mind read carp yer talkin' 'bout? Ya jus' tryin' ta trick ol' Murky with a bunch of tricky questions instead of backin' up the pure S*** you were spoutin' a bit ago?????????????????????????

No, I don't want a democratic president.

Then why is a "Republican" spoutin' move on .org taklin' points? Is it that nap or yer smoke maybe?

Yes, I was ranting but I simply can't believe why anyone would think he is doing a good job.


Because I have a functional brain cell, n' don't like the taste o' Kool aid. I also know a few things about history. Were ya nappin' during history class?

The new branch of government
I'm speaking of is the Homeland security department.

Hmmmmmmm, ya need to hit the books my friend, that is part of the Executive Branch!!!

We're spending billions with this doing things like buying high-dollar speed boats to catch terrorists on the red river in shreveport, La. What a joke. I'm very disappointed in Bush, voted for him the 1st but not 2nd time.

Hmmmmm, so a Republican voted fer the Vet then??? Some Republican you are. Did ya believe the Vet when he told ya it was worse then the Great Depression? Ya kinda like the taste of Kool aid then?

Have you looked at the vacancies in federal courts that Bush has not been able to fill?

That seems to be the work of the opposition. Ya know there called Democrats!! Have some more kool aid.

Change my mind about him, I'm listening...
jbj

I'm not here to change yer mind, I challanged you to back up the PURE carp ya been dribbling n' all I get is a bunch of questions. No Thanks. There has to be some degree of critical thinking abilities to engage in debate. Have not seen anything but an unsupported move on . org rant from you so far except yer comment about the Auzzies n' thier gun laws which I liked BTW. JR

 

[RubberFrog]

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Me smells a liberal in elephant hide clothing....

 

[jbjennings]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

yes, i did vote for kerry, not because i wanted to but because i was hoping for gridlock. this seems to be the best thing for America right now because both the dems and reps. are screwing up the world. notice who won in the last elections, I'm not the only one displeased with the republicans today. I can see that you're too easily angered by dissenting opinions so let me leave it at that.
jbj

 

[OldMercsRule]

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yes, i did vote for kerry, not because i wanted to but because i was hoping for gridlock.

Is Liberalism a mental disorder? No SELF RESPECTING Republican would ever vote fer that treasonist pig n' then have the audacity to boldly call themselves a "Republican"! What a joke! Don't call yer self a Republican here on DC again.

this seems to be the best thing for America right now because both the dems and reps. are screwing up the world.

Is Liberalism a mental disorder???

notice who won in the last elections, I'm not the only one displeased with the republicans today.

You sir are a FRAUD!

I can see that you're too easily angered by dissenting opinions so let me leave it at that.
jbj

Not angry at all. Read my words YOU CAN"T POSSIBLY READ MY MIND, even if it is only one brain cell!!! I don't like people to say they are a REPUBLICAN when they aren't even close. I'm done here too. JR

 

[POINTER94]

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Quote:

"yes, i did vote for kerry, not because i wanted to but because i was hoping for gridlock. "

Then......

"Have you looked at the vacancies in federal courts that Bush has not been able to fill?"


YEP, I'M CONFUSED..... Exactly who do you think Kerry would have put on the court? Other than Ward Churchill? Obviously you don't care who sits on these courts. Or do you????

Only the shadow knows......

But I know this is whole heartedly inconsistant with your "claim" to being a republican and your subsequent rationalization for voting for the war hero.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

I certainly did not want him appointing judges. I guess I was unclear-- what I meant to say was that if he did actually win by some miracle that I was hoping for gridlock. My main excuse for voting for him is to express my discontent with Bush. I live in a state that was definitely going to go to Bush so my vote wouldn't matter. I wonder, though, what you'll do with this statement and how you'll quote me next. Bash away though, I can take it. The other millions of people that are thinking similarly to me probably won't check in after seeing the last posters message and for good reason. by the way, i thought this was dockside CHAT.
jbj

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

I certainly did not want him appointing judges. I guess I was unclear-- what I meant to say was that if he did actually win by some miracle that I was hoping for gridlock. My main excuse for voting for him is to express my discontent with Bush. I live in a state that was definitely going to go to Bush so my vote wouldn't matter. I wonder, though, what you'll do with this statement and how you'll quote me next. Bash away though, I can take it. The other millions of people that are thinking similarly to me probably won't check in after seeing the last posters message and for good reason. by the way, i thought this was dockside CHAT.
jbj

We like the truth here on DC. A foreign corncept ta you I fear. JR

 

[12Footer]

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Yep.. Being a bunch of boat folks, we have found the BS does not float... Not enough fiber.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

I apologize if I misquoted you in any way. Please feel free to point out where I was in error. Other than your words, what else can we make a determination of your positions on?

But based on what you say, and I am not a President Bush fan by any stretch, and I have brought up his complete lack of investment in getting his nominations through the liberal blockade on numerous occasions, what would any thinking person conclude?

A) Hate President Bush... Not dislike, hate. You voted for a socialist.
B) War is lost... I guess you haven't been reading lately.
C) Seem to disapprove of homeland security based on the purchase of a boat.


What I like about President Bush includes his appointment of the finest, absolutely the finest supreme court nominee's in my lifetime. He took an economy in recession and turned it into the greatest economy ever. He sticks up for his friends and has brought dignity back to the office. Lybia surrendered without a shot, he stuck to his guns regarding Korean whack job ILL, we haven't been attacked since 9/11, he exposed the UN for the frauds and theives that they are without saying one word, he implemented tax cuts, he put forth a program to make our schools accountable, France and Germany are coming around to HIS way of thinking, he respects the military and refuses to call our troops Nazi's, he refused to make a persons sexual preferences an issue when it came to hiring his staff - in fact stuck up for his principals in the face of an easy decision to throw they guy overboard, he is respectful of the government provided staff, he wants to win the war - liberals don't, the media hates him, and on and on and on.

President Bush rubs me the wrong way with the things he doesn't do, not what he has done.

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: Do democrats want the surge to succeed.. Not!

Yep.. Being a bunch of boat folks, we have found the BS does not float... Not enough fiber.

LOL LOL LOL 12er!!!!