Do I Need two batteries?

Andyfender

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My boat is 14'. I have a 1978 35 HP Johnson Outboard, also a 12 v Minn Kota TM and a Fish Finder. Do I need two batteries?

Andy
 

marcortez

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

I would say yes.....

One to start the motor and power the depth finder.
The other solely for the trolling motor.
 

arks

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

No, you don't need two barreries, but I think you'd find yourself worrying less with a pair.
My 14' Jon is equipped similar to yours. and I have a small starting battery for the outboard and a larger (group 31) for the troller. I can run the troller all day without any concerns.
 

mthieme

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

I agree with Arks.
You don't NEED 2, but you may WANT 2.
You can always rope start the 35 if you have to.
 

lncoop

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

Yep, use two batteries. Life's too short to pull start when you don't have to and $60-$70 is a cheap way to insure you don't have to. I would go with a starting battery and a deep cycle or dual purpose.
 

Hunlock

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

Get a pair.

Ummm....Of batteries, of course. Like the other have said, you will worry a lot less. I also had this pop up why I bought my boat. With two on board, I feel a lot better when I'm out all night.


T
 

dave11

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

No, you don't need two barreries, but I think you'd find yourself worrying less with a pair.
My 14' Jon is equipped similar to yours. and I have a small starting battery for the outboard and a larger (group 31) for the troller. I can run the troller all day without any concerns.

Yep
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

I say no, one battery is plenty. One deep cycle battery will have more capacity than a starting battery and a standard trolling battery. Not to mention as was stated before, you can pull start a 35.

One thing I seriously doubt most people who say to use two batteries have had is EXPERIENCE with running a single battery. I switched over to one battery in 2006 and haven't looked back since. It was one of the smartest moves I could have made. And here's why:

I have practically the same boat you do and my boat ran noticeably faster (not to mention I had a lot more room in the boat) when I got rid of the trolling battery up front and went to a single heavy duty deep cycle in the back. I also bought myself about an inch and a half of freeboard by getting rid of that battery and if fishing at rest and a large wave comes, having all the batteries in the world won't help if they cause your boat to swamp on you. My boat has had fewer waves break over the bow since removing that battery. Anything helps in a small boat! I've gone fishing with the trolling motor on "constant on" for 3-4 hours and when I touch the key it still makes the engine jump off the back of the boat. Deep cycles will also last longer and take more abuse.

I have a depth finder with a voltmeter as part of the display. At rest, my deep cycle shows 12.8 volts under no load when leaving the dock to go fishing. After 3-4 hours of trolling, at rest, it was 12.65 volts. That is still considered a fully charged battery!!!

No, you don't need 2 batteries. Having 2 is just a false sense of security because if something goes wrong, your starting battery will give you less power than your deep cycle will. But I guess to some people a false sense of security beats NO sense of security. How much energy do these people think it takes to start an engine with the touch of a key? A 35 at that? Almost zero! You would LONG notice your battery becoming sluggish with the trolling motor before you hit a level that wouldn't start a 35. Some of these responses, while well intended, don't take "small boat and engine" into consideration.

If I had a boat with more than 35ft lb of thrust trolling motor and larger than say a 40-50hp, I would suggest two batteries, but for small boats like ours, no, a single large heavy duty deep cycle is all that is needed.
 

Andyfender

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

I say no, one battery is plenty. One deep cycle battery will have more capacity than a starting battery and a standard trolling battery. Not to mention as was stated before, you can pull start a 35.

One thing I seriously doubt most people who say to use two batteries have had is EXPERIENCE with running a single battery. I switched over to one battery in 2006 and haven't looked back since. It was one of the smartest moves I could have made. And here's why:

I have practically the same boat you do and my boat ran noticeably faster (not to mention I had a lot more room in the boat) when I got rid of the trolling battery up front and went to a single heavy duty deep cycle in the back. I also bought myself about an inch and a half of freeboard by getting rid of that battery and if fishing at rest and a large wave comes, having all the batteries in the world won't help if they cause your boat to swamp on you. My boat has had fewer waves break over the bow since removing that battery. Anything helps in a small boat! I've gone fishing with the trolling motor on "constant on" for 3-4 hours and when I touch the key it still makes the engine jump off the back of the boat. Deep cycles will also last longer and take more abuse.

I have a depth finder with a voltmeter as part of the display. At rest, my deep cycle shows 12.8 volts under no load when leaving the dock to go fishing. After 3-4 hours of trolling, at rest, it was 12.65 volts. That is still considered a fully charged battery!!!

No, you don't need 2 batteries. Having 2 is just a false sense of security because if something goes wrong, your starting battery will give you less power than your deep cycle will. But I guess to some people a false sense of security beats NO sense of security. How much energy do these people think it takes to start an engine with the touch of a key? A 35 at that? Almost zero! You would LONG notice your battery becoming sluggish with the trolling motor before you hit a level that wouldn't start a 35. Some of these responses, while well intended, don't take "small boat and engine" into consideration.

If I had a boat with more than 35ft lb of thrust trolling motor and larger than say a 40-50hp, I would suggest two batteries, but for small boats like ours, no, a single large heavy duty deep cycle is all that is needed.


The thrust of my TM is 55lb.
 

lncoop

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

False sense of security? Scenario: You've put in a ten hour day on the water, aggressively using your trolling motor and electronics. You've had a great day and you're ready to make the two mile run back to the ramp. You make your preparations for the run and turn the key. You have to crank for a while but the motor finally starts. Then it dies. You turn the key again and the motor starts, then dies. You turn the key once more and nothing happens because the battery is almost dead, so you begin pulling the rope. You pull and pull and for whatever reason the motor doesn't start. It was working fine earlier. (How many times have we said that LOL?) It's getting dark and you still have to find a way to get back in, now while using your running lights. You think, "well, I guess I can limp back in with the trolling mot-uh oh." Now, rerun the scenario factoring in that second battery that cost you $70. It might take you a while, but you will be able to make it home safely. Sounds like real security to me. No disrespect intended, but IMHO $70 and 50-60 pounds of extra weight add up to some pretty cheap piece of mind. Things happen on the water, even to the savviest of boaters.;)
 

Philip_G

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Re: Do I Need two batteries?

I'd carry 3, one to start and run electronics and 2 in parallel to run the trolling motor.
 
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