dock building help

[Feelin' NAUTI]

Hey all, I was hoping to get some quick advice here, on building a small floating dock. I am ok with buliding the floating deck my concern is securing it well as my boat, a 20' Bayliner Capri Cuddy, will be tied off to it. I am looking at getting a property in the S Jersey shore area. It is on a creek off the bay and normal tidal swing is probably 4-5 feet. Usual practice, at least everything I see are the big wooden pilings with the ring around them to hold the dock, but they are very expensive, 800-1200 per piling installed. I have investigated dock building suppliers and the only other system I see is a 3" sleeve that allows you to put a long galvanized pole through it and bang them in to the bottom a few feet. I am concerned if this will support what I am looking to do. This seems more like a pond set up not tidal. My brother, who is out in Portland, swears I can just float my dock out in the water and tie it to 2 steel cables anchored to shore, and claims this is common out on the west coast but I am even more skeptical about this set up. The water is not deep and I would be docking perpendicular to the shore commonly at low tide the nose of the boat can be in the mud. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

 

[Bondo]

Re: dock building help

Hey all, I was hoping to get some quick advice here, on building a small floating dock. I am ok with buliding the floating deck my concern is securing it well as my boat, a 20' Bayliner Capri Cuddy, will be tied off to it. I am looking at getting a property in the S Jersey shore area. It is on a creek off the bay and normal tidal swing is probably 4-5 feet. Usual practice, at least everything I see are the big wooden pilings with the ring around them to hold the dock, but they are very expensive, 800-1200 per piling installed. I have investigated dock building suppliers and the only other system I see is a 3" sleeve that allows you to put a long galvanized pole through it and bang them in to the bottom a few feet. I am concerned if this will support what I am looking to do. This seems more like a pond set up not tidal. My brother, who is out in Portland, swears I can just float my dock out in the water and tie it to 2 steel cables anchored to shore, and claims this is common out on the west coast but I am even more skeptical about this set up. The water is not deep and I would be docking perpendicular to the shore commonly at low tide the nose of the boat can be in the mud. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard,.... Local condition are Everything when it comes to buildin' a dock,...

Seein' yer local conditions would be a Big Help,....

Besides the tide itself, what's the water Flows there,..?? speeds, etc,..??

 

[Feelin' NAUTI]

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the water moves pretty good when the tides are changing, not too much current besides that, there marshes at the waterline so it is flat and clear no rocks or anything just muck

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: dock building help

And it would be a good thing to check on permitting. Tidal waters have some pretty restrictive rules.

 

[crabby captain john]

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If you need a CAMA permit your brothers idea will not work. Here they figure anything over land at the price of a deck and when you hit the water it can go as high as a grand a foot. Most go for less using 6X6 instead of telephone poles unless commercial or over 20'.

 

[Feelin' NAUTI]

Re: dock building help

i have talked to DEP about permits and thats nothing 1200 cant fix, but they need plans signed and sealed from an engineer if I do a fixed or permanent dock, thats why I was looking at other options for a "temporary" dock as with the metal poles, easy to remove and pull the dock out, Ha I thought boats were expensive

 

[Bondo]

Re: dock building help

i have talked to DEP about permits and thats nothing 1200 cant fix, but they need plans signed and sealed from an engineer if I do a fixed or permanent dock, thats why I was looking at other options for a "temporary" dock as with the metal poles, easy to remove and pull the dock out, Ha I thought boats were expensive

Ayuh,..... My floatin' dock is tied to the concrete patio, 'n to anchors out in the water,....
Though I don't remove/ reset the anchors every year, they're still "temporary" fixtures,...

Usin' X-lines under the dock, to shore, helps with the current at my place,...
I can get by without the off-shore anchors, but they do add stability,...
I use chains, 'n cables, as they add abit of extra ballast by themselves, over nylon lines,...

Yer only limited by yer Imagination,.....

 

[Chris1956]

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Here on Barnegat Bay, most pilings are jetted in. I would think you could jet in some iron pipes (galvanized), to hold the dock. I would jet them in and figure out some way to tie them to the shore.

Barnegat bay has a 1 foot tide swing, on normal days. Where is it you are thinking about putting this dock?