Does anyone know what motor this is????

[camarostripes96]

ok well i had a guy cleaning up some stuff and i did some work for him and he gave me alot of things,one of which was this boat motor , it turns over and everything and he said it used to run , but i have no clue what kind it is , it looks like it has been painted before and i cannot find any numbers or nothing on it. Does anyone know what kind it is or where i could look at on it? the spark plug wire broke off the coil pack so now i need a coil pack and i would like to get it runnig but i dont know where to get parts for it or where to start, so here are some pics please let me know if u know anything about his motor, name?, size?, year? and how much its worth?

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[mrcrabs]

Re: Does anyone know what motor this is????

Clinton

 

[twocyclemania]

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From what I can make of the pictures it appears to be a Clinton air cooled. I have a Clinton Apache (they made a few different models) that I picked up cheap as it looked like it had been used once or twice. It runs great and I keep it with me as a back-up motor. I did use it when I had carb. problems with my 18 Evinrude and it got me through the day. A bit slow (5 hsp) but it does run nice. I just ran it the other day in the barrel to check it out and it always runs like a clock. I love the little beast. Just be careful not to pull too hard on the starter cord as it may pull out (at least that's my experience). It should put out a little bit of coolant water spray from the small holes in the leg. These do not cool the head (it's air cooled) but they're supposed to cool the exhaust. I notice you do not have the shrouding (top and bottom cowl). I do believe these are/may be necessary to conduct the cooling air past the motor. Someone more knowledgeable than me may agree or say otherwise. I mention this because I don't want you to cook a nice little motor. I normally disdain air cooled motors but this one has changed my opinion. Don't expect a lot of top end performance but as a kicker I think it's a great little motor. Light weight too.

 

[twocyclemania]

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Forgot to mention: As far a parts you may be able to find engine / electrical as a lawn mower place since Clinton is / was common with lawnmowers and other equipment. Another place you may try is NAPA parts. They have an outboard parts book with a pretty extensive listing. If you're patient you can find parts on ebay and I would look for the cowling. Good luck!

 

[F_R]

Re: Does anyone know what motor this is????

Some Clintons didn't have the outer shrouds. They aren't necessary.

The water pump in those motors is really cheaply built and troublesome. Glad yours is working well and you are happy. Not all Clintons have a water pump though, Some use a ram tube. That's good.

If the water pump fails, it will run till the exhaust tube gets so stinking, smoking hot that it overheats the engine.

 

[camarostripes96]

Re: Does anyone know what motor this is????

ok yall thanks for the info! does anyone know about how much its worth in working condition by any chance just a ruff estimate? also how would i know if the water pump isnt working ? water wont be coming out the exhaust or what?

 

[F_R]

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Water mist will blow out the exhaust relief holes on the rear of the leg.

Value depends on if you can find an interested buyer. I wouldn't be interested, but that's just me.

 

[twocyclemania]

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Supreme Mariner: Thanks for the info on the shroud and the cooling system. I had planned to run mine even if the coolant system crapped out but you've convinced me otherwise.

As for what it's worth: I picked mine up for $30.00 and only because it looked like it was used maybe once or twice. Hope that helps. Once again, I love the little beast but I'm really not into air cooled motors.

Good luck with yours.

 

[Tom @ Buzzard Bluff]

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Supreme Mariner: Thanks for the info on the shroud and the cooling system. I had planned to run mine even if the coolant system crapped out but you've convinced me otherwise.

As for what it's worth: I picked mine up for $30.00 and only because it looked like it was used maybe once or twice. Hope that helps. Once again, I love the little beast but I'm really not into air cooled motors.

You don't have to be 'into' air-cooled motors to appreciate something that works. And a well maintained Eska or Clinton work well if fed the proper fuel/oil mix and the L/U kept full. Most are destroyed by too little oil or the chintzy seals in the L/U in combination with ignorance.
You should also be aware that the primary purpose of the waterpump on the air-cooled motors is to keep the critical lower bearing and seal cool. Due to the basic design required by converting the Clinton & Tecumseh engines to marine use the bottom part of the crankcase that contains the lower bearing and seal serves as the exhaust collector. Without the cooling effect of the water the seal would soon fail followed shortly thereafter by the bearing.

And for the OP who keeps insisting on a value for his Clinton----
Other posters have politely side-stepped the question for a reason---old Clintons such as yours often go unclaimed when offered free at outboard collector get-togethers. Unless someone needs one to cannibalize for parts their greatest value is often as scrap metal.

 

[twocyclemania]

Re: Does anyone know what motor this is????

FR: Just what is a 'ram tube' and how do I determine if my Clinton Apache has a pump or the ram tube? I'm curious but not enough to take it apart since it works great. thanks

 

[twocyclemania]

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Tom@BuzzardBluff: Thanks for the info. I agree with you about enjoying these little mechanical marvels. I like anything with an engine that I can get running and use. Your final comment hurt; as far as these motors being of scrap value. They probably are and I'm just lucky I picked up one basically never used and on the few occasions I've needed it it has helped me out. Thanks again for the valuable info.

 

[tmcalavy]

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After they crater, they make fine boat anchors.

 

[Tom @ Buzzard Bluff]

Re: Does anyone know what motor this is????

Tom@BuzzardBluff: Thanks for the info. I agree with you about enjoying these little mechanical marvels. I like anything with an engine that I can get running and use. Your final comment hurt; as far as these motors being of scrap value. They probably are and I'm just lucky I picked up one basically never used and on the few occasions I've needed it it has helped me out. Thanks again for the valuable info.

I certainly wasn't referring to your motor with that comment! You made a Helluva deal IMO! I was answering the OP who kept insisting on a value. His motor in the pics he sent appears to be a 'parts motor' from my standpoint. I pay from $5-$50 for parts motors depending on make, rarity and how badly I need the parts.

The 'ram tube' that FR referred to is a method of getting cooling water to the critical area. It consists of a 5/16" tube with a 180 degree bend in the end of it that protrudes from the exhaust outlet in a position that forward motion of the boat in combination with propwash forces water up the tube when underway. They work very well as designed but insects just LOVE to build nests in them so they must be checked for operation every time you use them. They were used mainly on the smaller engines (3 1/2 or less) having been tried on larger motors and---presumably---been found wanting.
Motors so equipped shouldn't be run in a testank---only on a boat underway.

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: Does anyone know what motor this is????

Hey I found one just like it on ebay,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Antique-Clinton-5-HP-Outboard-Boat-Motor-BM9999-fishing-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eb0065004QQitemZ200521699332QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear

 

[SeaKaye12]

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heh...I guess we're going to find out what **THAT ONE** is worth.....we'll see how the auction goes. As it's been said...something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

I have to hand it to the seller there...he took the trouble to take many fine pictures that do the little Clinton justice.

Look at it this way OP.....your motor might not be worth a lot of $$$$$...but sometime very long ago; someone opened his wallet and took that Clinton home. Maybe he took his son out fishing with it??? Who knows what stories that little motor could tell....

Old boats have personalities; I like to think that old motors do too....

Thanks for reading,

Chuck

 

[1946Zephyr]

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Through my years of outboard motor repair, I've fixed and sold a lot of these Clinton/Eska motors. As stated earlier in this post, the thing that gets them, is lack of care and neglect. They often are easliy coaxed back to life and run fine. I think I have maxed out at $150 on some I've sold in the past and many were happy to get something this lightweight and easy to fix. So, if you have a good one that you will find use for, keep care of it and it'll last you quite a while.

 

[Tom @ Buzzard Bluff]

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<I guess we're going to find out what **THAT ONE** is worth.....we'll see how the auction goes. As it's been said...something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
I have to hand it to the seller there...he took the trouble to take many fine pictures that do the little Clinton justice.>

And stated "I believe all parts to be there and intact." when it's obvious that all of the upper cowling is missing. Ignorance or intent?

<Look at it this way OP.....your motor might not be worth a lot of $$$$$...but sometime very long ago; someone opened his wallet and took that Clinton home. Maybe he took his son out fishing with it??? Who knows what stories that little motor could tell....
Old boats have personalities; I like to think that old motors do too....>

So I'm not the only one who thinks that way----
I often fantasize that the original purchaser is looking down with approval when I once again fire up his one-time 'fishing buddy' in the tank. But I've always been called a daydreamer----

 

[mrcrabs]

Re: Does anyone know what motor this is????

I studied the pic's closely and could not see any place to attach any more cowling to that engine. are you sure its not all there Tom? although I did notice the back end of the tiller handle bar was missing.

 

[Tom @ Buzzard Bluff]

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I studied the pic's closely and could not see any place to attach any more cowling to that engine. are you sure its not all there Tom? although I did notice the back end of the tiller handle bar was missing.

Look at the faceplate in front of the carb. It seems obvious to me that it was part of a cowling system.