Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Jon Sob

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I had purchased this boat from an 84 yr old gentlman who couldn't remember what kind of boat it was. In the paperwork that he had given me I found a bill of sale from when the PO purchased it in '86 but all it said was that it was a '64 MFG fiberglass boat. I have not been able to find it in the MFG classic library and some here on iboats seem to think it is something other than and MFG because of the lateral ribs and metal stringers. It measures about 12'6" in length and about 5' across. The DNR from the state of Ohio had to inspect it to give it what they called a "modern hull number". The tag that they had given me rated the boat at 20hp max and he said it looked like an MFG. I hope that some of you MFG'ers out there might be able to help me identify it.

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Kinda looks like an MFG...
But I don't think it is. My only guess is, it may be an Arkansas Traveler :confused:
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

It looks like an MFG but I can't find one in the books that has the cap go around to the transom like mine does. ( see pic above )
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Okay I'll weigh in.The fiberglass ribs seem to be built into the bottom. Not so in a MFG, they are laid over the keelson and glued/epoxied into place. The chimes in your hull are more angular than a MFG which are rounded.The metal stringers were never in a stock MFG. Maybe a retrofit by a previous owner.As noted the transom cap is different as most early MFGs had a aluminum cap that ended at the splashwell,which looks like this one never had.The bow deck lines are different.I would post pics on Fiberglassics and see what they have to say.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Gotta agree with Mr 88. Another interesting thing is the deck lip over the hull. To my knowledge, MFG didn't use this method. I could be wrong, Just never seen it that way. Good luck researching her!
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Thanks guys I will try fiberglassics and see what happens. The ribs are made of wood and glassed over if that rings a bell to anyone. I saw an MFG Cambridge for sale on CL and from the photo it looked like it had the same ribs in the hull but I couldn't see the cap on the transom but everything else looked like my boat.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

MFG ribs were not made of wood.They were made out of some sort of fiberglass strands in a square shape.Hard to describe but they were not glassed over as your saying .There was a lot of copying going on back then with no lawsuits being filed, MFG being a case in point.They take a Lyman and use it for a mold then present it to them and get turned down,then proceed to make them,,so,, I will say at this point it is not a MFG.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Ok ...... I am going to try fiberglassics and see if anyone know what it is...... Thanks for the help.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

I tried Fiberglassics and I think we found my boat. I am almost certain it is an MFG Corry Carefree. I don't know what year yet but I am sure that is what it is. Does anyone on here own a Carefree or have a photo of one?
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

MFG ribs were not made of wood.They were made out of some sort of fiberglass strands in a square shape.Hard to describe but they were not glassed over as your saying .There was a lot of copying going on back then with no lawsuits being filed, MFG being a case in point.They take a Lyman and use it for a mold then present it to them and get turned down,then proceed to make them,,so,, I will say at this point it is not a MFG.

An interview with the current owner of MFG (son of original owner, I believe) told how MFG was asked to build expensive metal molds to produce boats, then the client failed and did not pay for the molds. MFG decided to make the boats to pay the expense of the metal molds. I don't recall Lyman ever being involved with MFG. I think fiberglassics still has this interview on their website if you want to look it up.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

MFG made the early Corvette body's. They were looking to supplement there income with the fairly new for boat building fiberglass material. They used a Lyman for there metal mold. MFG then went to Lyman and asked if they would be interested in buying these hulls from them,they said no. MFG then went on to produce and market the boats by themselves after investing money and research into the mfg. of said hulls. Today they would of been sued for copying someone's hull.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

What does it say on the plate on the transom? or is that the plate the ODNR made?
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

No .... the plate on the transom was on the boat when I got it and it was issued in Pa. Pa is the one that set the hp limit on my boat according to the ODNR. ODNR issued a small tag with just a "NEW" hull number.

This is the plate that was on the boat:
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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

I have a question for you MFG guys out there ..... I have what I know is an MFG Corry Carefree and I think it is a '64 (not real sure on that) but it has the same hull as the boat in the photo with the lateral ribs. The question is wether the floor in the pic is factory or something that was added later. I am about to do the floor in my boat and can't decide if I want to do it like the photo or close it all in and tab it to the hull. All comments welcome ...... Thanks.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Sorry ..... forgot to add the photo.


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This is my hull:
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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Hey Jon,

I kinda like the idea of "bildge inserts" with some carpeting. Easy to keep clean. I don't know what was original, but tabbing in a new floor seems to be alot of work. Especially around all the ribs. Just my 2 cents worth! BTW Nice work!
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Thanks Ed .... The only thing about the floor in the pic is that I am afraid that I would drop things and they would slide between the ribs and under the floor.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

HELL-O Iam not trying to be rued.But that other boat what is the make?
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Hey Royal .... I am not sure but I think it was an MFG Suburban.
 

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Re: Does this look like a '64 MFG?

Thanks Ed .... The only thing about the floor in the pic is that I am afraid that I would drop things and they would slide between the ribs and under the floor.

Yea,... but you could make it in two sections. Maybe cut down the center ? Then you could stand on one, and flip up the other ;)
 
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