Don't know where to start. So many problems with 95 Crownline

[bobkat1864]

It's usually fairly easy, and mess free to suck the old oil out of the dipstick tube, using a pump...warming the engine up first helps a lot too. I don't think I could even get to the drain plug in my oil pan. Search for "oil change pumps" here on iBoats...there are a bunch to choose from.

 

[Woodonglass]

All Bondo products have wax and use Talcum for a thickening agent. Both are not ideal for marine use.

 

[littleguydave]

Alright I will use the pump.

So I took the boat out today. It took forever to start (replaced fuel filter, fuel pump and scrubbed out gas tank).
I added 11 gallons (half tank) and took to the choppy waters. Everything held up but there was engine trouble.

The engine is loud but it started acting strange. The engine would produce a loud grinding noise, and then it got quiet. The engine was very quiet and the acceleration never decreased. Then it would get loud and grinding again. This was about at quarter throttle. It makes the noise a lot when I turn the steering wheel. It is hard to describe. I am changing out the gear oil by the propellor now. Tomorrow I am going to change the engine oil.

Any idea what could cause a grinding noise that last 3 seconds an stops, then comes back?

 

[littleguydave]

From my research it sounds like bellows and bearings. If that's the case I will pay to have it serviced because I do not have an engine hoist

 

[Baylinerchuck]

Is your power steering pump belt tight? Check power steering fluid? Hard to diagnose off that info.

 

[littleguydave]

Power steering pulley is fine, belt tension is fine and there is no leaking

 

[Baylinerchuck]

If you are talking about the gimbal bearing you don't need an engine hoist. Bellows wouldn't cause any noise, they just help fill your boat with water.

 

[littleguydave]

If you are talking about the gimbal bearing you don't need an engine hoist. Bellows wouldn't cause any noise, they just help fill your boat with water.

Well there was always a grinding noise when I turned the wheel about half way. This time it got worse and would be fine and then act up again. So I am assuming it is bearings. I am looking online at how to replace those bearings and also how much a local mechanic would cost

 

[bobkat1864]

If it makes noise when you turn, I would recommend taking a close look at the u-joints.

 

[littleguydave]

Thanks guys. I pulled the outdrive out. I need new bearings and bellows. The universal joints still appear fine. They seem well greased and smooth. I will replace those later. As of now I am going to try the bellows, bearing and impeller

 

[proshadetree]

Is that oil or water in that hose? If its oil might want to look at resealing that drive.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

By the looks of the color of the gimbal bearing grease it's water.

 

[littleguydave]

Hey guys I have taken a long break from the restoration in the floor. I started to work an area and I ended up getting horribly sick. I wore a respirator but should have taken the boat out of the garage. We all got sick. I decided to pay to have it done. I am working on the transom while he comes and works the floor.
Anyway, I got the bearing out, and I have the new bearing as well as a bellow repair kit. It was water in the ujoint bellow. The ujoint seems fine though. I am researching on how to change these bellows. I got my hinge pin in the mail today so tomorrow I get to business

 

[Baylinerchuck]

Wow man, that sucks. What Was the cause? Mold?

 

[littleguydave]

Wow man, that sucks. What Was the cause? Mold?

No it was poor planning. I mixed some epoxy with saw dust and played with that on the bench. I also tested an area with ployurethane foam. I also practiced with the fiberglass resin and hardener. I had my garage door open and the door to the house shut. But I guess the circulation was poor and the chemicals from all three events ended up in the hvac system poisoning the whole house.

I cannot store the boat outside because I live in a subdivision with HOA rules (yes I am looking to move). So now I pull the boat all the way out into the driveway

 

[Baylinerchuck]

Dang. That's terrible. Do you have an open return in your garage? I'm not sure how it got into your HVAC duct. Glad you're ok....kinda scary.

 

[ondarvr]

I doubt the fumes had anything to do with you actually getting sick, the polyester resin fumes are obnoxious, and the family may hate you for it, but the level of fumes from what you did wouldn't be enough to cause an actual illness. The odor does spread through a house quickly, and if you haven't been around it much you may feel like it's overpowering, but people work with it all day long, day after day, year after year, at levels much higher than what you experienced without problems.

​I'm not saying it's good for you, or that it's not an issue, and not many people like the smell, but someone that hasn't worked around polyester can detect levels of styrene (the solvent you smell) at extremely low levels, far below what's considered safe in the workplace for an 8 hour shift.

 

[littleguydave]

Well right inside the garage door is the intake for the hvac. I am guessing the seal to the door isn't great. Either way these chemicals are no joke. TOday I am going to wrestle with the bellows. Not looking forward to it. I need bellows adhesive though. Is there anything available at a local wal mart or cabelas?

 

[littleguydave]

I doubt the fumes had anything to do with you actually getting sick, the polyester resin fumes are obnoxious, and the family may hate you for it, but the level of fumes from what you did wouldn't be enough to cause an actual illness. The odor does spread through a house quickly, and if you haven't been around it much you may feel like it's overpowering, but people work with it all day long, day after day, year after year, at levels much higher than what you experienced without problems.

​I'm not saying it's good for you, or that it's not an issue, and not many people like the smell, but someone that hasn't worked around polyester can detect levels of styrene (the solvent you smell) at extremely low levels, far below what's considered safe in the workplace for an 8 hour shift.

Ok I see. I have head a weird feeling my my lungs though. Kinda like I have air in my lungs or heart. Like an air bubble that is stuck in my chest. I used one quart of bondo resin and hardener and a half gallon of foam

 

[ondarvr]

Pour foam can cause issues, some contain isocyanates, which can cause health problems just like you experienced. That's the one thing that could do it. Normally mixing and pouring doesn't create the conditions where it could cause a problem, but.....

​I'm sensitized to isocyanates, so I know what you're talking about.'