E3 diamondfire spark plugs...WHOA BABY!!

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642mx

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I knew I was going to have my butt handed to me by pages and pages of tests showing that this is happenstance and that E3's are just a gimmick. And I waited, and waited....and continue to wait yet nothing but phantom "tests" are ever posted.


When I told you my expert opinion (yes, I'm actually an expert) you cried to a moderator.

The bottom line is, no spark plug will increase your MPG by nearly 10 mpg... Everybody seems to get this concept but you.

But keep preaching if it makes you feel better. Its entertaining. :D
 

642mx

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You're right... I lose... you win....your test trumps every other test that's been done since the sparkplug was invented.

lmao!! I would buy you a beer if your ever in Southern Indiana... :)
 

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I'm not asking anyone to rebuke the claims made by me of 10mpg. But what about the ones on HPtv? I mean being such an expert, (at least in your own mind) you should be able to come up with some hard evidence debunking it. But, as it shows, you are a full-of-hot-air nobody.

I don't consider you much of an expert if your opinion is to call someone a liar. I've been on this forum a hell of a lot longer than you and people here know I will respect someone until they disrespect me and then the gloves come off. People in person know me as that as well. I don't give any ****, and don't expect to take any either.

But since this is a forum, you better not be hinting that I am a liar again, or I'll report your *** again. Eventually the mods will get sick of your **** and ban you like they should have the first time.

This is not negotiable.

So I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, Where are all of these tests? C'mon people, empty junk is worthless. Show us some evidence. Or leave the thread as you aren't really constructively adding to it. Cute little one-liners about phantom tests are laughable! :rolleyes:
 

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Re: E3 diamondfire spark plugs...WHOA BABY!!

So what was your mileage in your next tank?
 

waterinthefuel

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So what was your mileage in your next tank?


I don't know. All miles since are city miles so I expect it to drop into the low 20s. I use my motorcycle most of the time. It takes me quite a while to go 300 miles when I live 5 miles from school and less than 1 from walmart and I only use the truck when the weather is bad!! Lol
 

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Re: E3 diamondfire spark plugs...WHOA BABY!!

I'm not asking anyone to rebuke the claims made by me of 10mpg. But what about the ones on HPtv? I mean being such an expert, (at least in your own mind) you should be able to come up with some hard evidence debunking it. But, as it shows, you are a full-of-hot-air nobody.

I don't consider you much of an expert if your opinion is to call someone a liar. I've been on this forum a hell of a lot longer than you and people here know I will respect someone until they disrespect me and then the gloves come off. People in person know me as that as well. I don't give any ****, and don't expect to take any either.

But since this is a forum, you better not be hinting that I am a liar again, or I'll report your *** again. Eventually the mods will get sick of your **** and ban you like they should have the first time.

This is not negotiable.

So I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, Where are all of these tests? C'mon people, empty junk is worthless. Show us some evidence. Or leave the thread as you aren't really constructively adding to it. Cute little one-liners about phantom tests are laughable! :rolleyes:

Hey dude, are you going to take your bat and go home? If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen

The simple truth is, most of us old salts have seen hucksterism all our lives, and can smell it a mile away.

Common sense says that if you weren't burning 10% of the fuel, you'd have one heck of a pollution problem, and a real pukey running engine. If the fix was so easy, the car companies would be all over it like flies in the barn yard. For those of us who have run a wide variety of engines, with a wide variety of plug configurations in them, that thing doesn't even make sense, unless you're trying to get a plug to run 3 hours instead of 1 hour in an old International Blue Diamond oil burner. (That's a freebie from experience)

I've seen it before in other things. Back in the oil embargo days, there was a furnace, quite expensive, that ran an electric motor, a hydraulic pump, a restricting jet to increase the pressure and cause both the electric motor and the oil to heat up, and a radiator to take the heat off the oil. Air was blown over the whole works, and the claim was that you got 30% more heat out of it than you would get out of a resistance electric furnace.

Energy is neither created or destroyed, but only changed in form. Unlike a heat pump which brings in energy from outside, no other energy was input into the system. The huckster salesman would show you the speed of the heated air in a square duct, the area of the duct, a calculated CFM from that, and a temperature differential that showed 30% increase over input.

The trouble is that they were selling technical jargon to folks that didn't understand the engineering basics. Here's the fault. The speed of air in a duct is different at different places, being max in the middle, and 0 at the surface of the container. It is a laminar air flow, and measuring the speed in the center and multiplying it by the area is not a valid measurement of air flow. The difference you would expect in a 8x16 rectangular duct at 1000 CFM is (guess what) about 30%.

I had a friend, owner of a machine shop, inventor and engineer of local renown, that was sold on that furnace. When I explained it to him he got mad at me and said "It's got to be more efficient." How can that be?

Now we get to the nitty gritty. The hucksters get you emotionally involved with the product in some way. It's very subliminal, and actually falls into the category of mind control.

You've been had, get over it.

my 02
John
 

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Re: E3 diamondfire spark plugs...WHOA BABY!!

But since this is a forum, you better not be hinting that I am a liar again, or I'll report your *** again. Eventually the mods will get sick of your **** and ban you like they should have the first time.


I should be banned?... give me a break. You come on a forum, proclaim something I feel can't happen, you get called out and now your wanting me gone cause I don't agree?... How old are you?
 

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I did find another "test" that showed an increase in HP using these plugs.

Up to 5,000 RPMs the E3s produced less HP and torque, over 5,100 RPMs they squeezed out another 1HP or so. I can't say the difference above or below that point were much though. This was on an engine that produce around 380 hp

If I needed to run it over 5,000 to even see an unnoticeable difference, it wouldn't be worth it.
 

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I should be banned?... give me a break. You come on a forum, proclaim something I feel can't happen, you get called out and now your wanting me gone cause I don't agree?... How old are you?

Are you calling me a liar again?

Here we go....

Dude, I deal with 18yo kids who are more mature than you. Sad to say that some people of generation Y have way more respect than their elders.

I'm 30 years old and have a federal license to work on airplanes. I have more ratings, degrees and certificates than you'll ever have in your life. Read it and weep. Want me to list them or do you want me to save you the embarrassment?

I've been a member of this forum years more than anyone here. Since you didn't know this, we used to have a politics section. Trust me, you guys don't hold a candle to the old iboats forum crew. In a political discussion, an empty argument was pointed out as such and the member lost credibility. Unfortunately, most of those members left because of the crackdown on the politics section but I'm a leftover and I WILL call you out on it. You call me a liar? I WILL report you. It has nothing to do with "taking my bat and going home". It's called what you do when someone attacks you, since you are such an expert, you should know that! :D

If you disagree with what I say and think I'm lying, post PROOF. Simply saying "you're wrong" isn't even worth reading because its empty, and empty suit.
 

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Relax there buddy, I don't think anybody called you a liar, people are just challenging you on the results. I don't doubt you believe you're now getting almost 10 MPG better than before, you need to back up your claims though. Doing one trip and getting supposedly better mileage doesn't cut it, it needs to be repeatable. Plus you need to show there wasn?t some other issue causing your low figures from before.
 

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You're right I was getting too hot over this.

I can show you the figures. I can show you gas receipts. I showed you a video (which doesn't claim much increase at all) that proves they do work a little bit. You're asking me to back up my claims. I am. I have video evidence. Nobody has backed up THEIR claims that it doesn't work and until they do I really have no point in being here.
 

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Are you calling me a liar again?

Stop your internet bullying... or I'll tell...HAHAHAHAHA :D:D:D

I said what I said... take it how you want. If your telling the truth, nothing I say should bother you, right?... (but it seems like what I post is really bothering you for some reason)... anyways... :rolleyes:

I figured I was older than you... older and wiser. And I can clearly say I have thicker skin. ;)

And what date we all joined this or any site has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. I have over 7000 posts on another site, but that doesn't mean someone with 100 posts knows less than me.
 

j_martin

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Are you calling me a liar again?

Dude, I deal with 18yo kids who are more mature than you.

I'm 30 years old and have a federal license to work on airplanes.

I have more ratings, degrees and certificates than you'll ever have in your life.

I've been a member of this forum years more than anyone here.

You call me a liar? I WILL report you.

It has nothing to do with "taking my bat and going home".

If you disagree with what I say and think I'm lying, post PROOF.

Do you feel better now?

BTW, when I was 30, you were still a gleam in yer daddie's eye.
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: E3 diamondfire spark plugs...WHOA BABY!!

Stop your internet bullying... or I'll tell...HAHAHAHAHA :D:D:D

I said what I said... take it how you want. If your telling the truth, nothing I say should bother you, right?... (but it seems like what I post is really bothering you for some reason)... anyways... :rolleyes:

I figured I was older than you... older and wiser. And I can clearly say I have thicker skin. ;)

And what date we all joined this or any site has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. I have over 7000 posts on another site, but that doesn't mean someone with 100 posts knows less than me.

Yea, I know, I can't imagine why being called a liar should bother me. :rolleyes:
 

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I think this thread has reached the end of the road.

There is way too much bickering......... closed.
 
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