Elvin: Any clue when the 115 TLDI's will be available from Nissan/Tohatsu?

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I will be looking to upgrade boats again---yeah, I know, I know...am never happy with the size I have...bigger is better- that is what my girlfriend says.<br /><br />Have you received word on when the new 115 TLDI's will be available? Any rough idea where they are going to be at in price? Will the electronic gauges still be available?<br /><br />What is going to be the fate of the 140 in Nissan/ Tohatsu's line?<br /><br />I have had such good luck with this previous Nissan TLDI (and my dealer) - I am going to stick with another...
 

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Re: Elvin: Any clue when the 115 TLDI's will be available from Nissan/Tohatsu?

Six months ago we were told that the 115 TLDI would be released in August. It looks more like late September, early October now. Tohatsu moved into a new production plant a few months ago and production came to a grinding halt....much, much longer than it was supposed to. No word on what the new guages wil look like for the four cylinders and the 140 will become a TLDI by Christmas...we hope.
 

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Re: Elvin: Any clue when the 115 TLDI's will be available from Nissan/Tohatsu?

Thanks for the info!!!!!<br />I figured if we were going to see a release yet this summer, I would look to purchase towards the end of the season when the boat deals are good. If we are not going to see it until fall, then I will probably wait until next spring. <br /><br />Since it was announced alot earlier for the british market, did they ever get up to speed and start shipping it over there?<br /><br />And lastly, did they move into new production facilities because of the new relationship with Mercury?
 

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Re: Elvin: Any clue when the 115 TLDI's will be available from Nissan/Tohatsu?

The British Tohatsu distributor started the hype, but they will not see any of the new models until we do. The new plant is owned by a joint company with two stockholders...Tohatsu and Mercury. This third company own's the land, building and some machinery, but Tohatsu leases all of that back and owns all designs and production. Then Tohatsu sells x number of engines to Mercury. With Mercury's history of erratic business practice's Tohatsu would not invest in expanding it's production capacity for them without making Mercury partially responsible<br />for the costs. Keep in mind that Mercury has been buying engines from Tohatsu for over ten years. But, with Tohatsu now agreeing to provide them with most, if not all of their engines under 30 hp, thats a huge jump in unit production. Also, Tohatsu has been providing and will continue to produce some model engines for Mercury above 30 hp...So far those have all been for the non-U.S. market, but that may very well change shortly. <br /><br />The global market for outboards is just like everything else today...subject to cost-benefit/production-benefits. On any given day relationships are created and dissolved with little or no thought as to national impact on jobs or balance of trade. Today, Mercury is sleeping with Tohatsu. Tomorrow it will be the Chinese. As long as the French are not producing engines for them I don't think it makes much difference. But, I don't think we need to worry too much about the French at this point...They have most of their manufacturing capability tied up producing white surrender flags.
 

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Re: Elvin: Any clue when the 115 TLDI's will be available from Nissan/Tohatsu?

ROFLMAO! Quit holding back Elvin- tell me how you REALLY feel about the French :-D<br /><br />Great info Elvin- I appreciate it. I was curious as to what was happening in that relationship. <br /><br />I like so many others saw the British press release last year showing the 4 cylinder 120/140 TLDI. Then nothing. Never heard another word. I then wondered if Tohatsu held it back because of problems. I am glad to hear that the British distrbutor was simply jumping the gun. <br /><br />It kinda makes a guy think with this relationship. Here's some wishful thinking:<br /><br />Tohatsu and Merc...maybe a re-labeled a TLDI for Merc in the 40 and 50 hp range. Strategic alliance to further develop DFI to compete better against BRP. Expand the dealer network for Tohatsu to include some Merc dealers in locations where they are few and far in between. <br /><br />It has a ton of possibilities... I just hope it is a more solid relationship than the "back stabbing" that occurred between Merc and Yamaha...
 

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Re: Elvin: Any clue when the 115 TLDI's will be available from Nissan/Tohatsu?

Hey Elvin- I ran across this yesterday. Pricing for the 115 TLDI's. <br /><br /> http://www.clearwater-marine.com/nissan_pricing.htm <br /><br />I am getting restless. When can dealers order these? Are these prices pretty accurate (I realize that each dealer will set their final price)?<br /><br />Is there anything new that has been released to you on the 115's including specs or press releases? Do we know a final release date yet? <br />Thanks!
 

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Re: Elvin: Any clue when the 115 TLDI's will be available from Nissan/Tohatsu?

The pricing came out on August 1st, but the engine's release date is going to be October or Novenmber. The pricing is in the right range...a little high maybe. Dealers could put them on order as of the first. So far, no final specs or press release's....Probably at the end of this month for those.
 
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