Eminent Domain? Hey Souter! You Lose!

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WEARE, New Hampshire (AP) -- A critic of the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling that governments may seize private property for economic development is suggesting the process be used to replace Justice David Souter's New Hampshire home with a hotel.<br />"The justification for such an eminent domain action is that our hotel will better serve the public interest as it will bring in economic development and higher tax revenue to Weare," Logan Darrow Clements wrote in a fax to town officials in Weare Tuesday.<br />Souter, a longtime Weare resident, joined in last week's 5-4 court decision that said governments may seize private property for private development, if doing so would benefit a community. (Full story)<br />Clements is CEO of Los Angeles-based Freestar Media, which fights "abusive" government. "This is not a prank," he said in a news release on the Freestar Media web site.<br />Clements did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking additional comment Wednesday. A telephone call was answered with a recording saying his voice mailbox was full.<br />Police cars were parked at the edge of Souter's property Tuesday in response to the letter. "It was a precaution, just being protective," said police Lt. Mark Bodanza. Souter was assaulted while jogging in Washington in May 2004.<br />Clements' letter was given to the board of selectmen. If the five-member board were to endorse the hotel project, zoning laws would have to be changed and the hotel would have to get approval from the planning board.<br />"At this point, the Board of Selectmen are taking no action," chairwoman Laura Buono said Wednesday in an e-mail.<br />"Am I taking this seriously? But of course," said Charles Meany, Weare's code enforcement officer. "If it is their right to pursue this type of end, then by all means let the process begin."<br />Meany did not immediately respond to a call seeking details on the process.<br />There was no immediate response to a call seeking comment from Souter.<br />Souter's two-story colonial farmhouse is assessed at just over $100,000 and brought in $2,895 in property taxes last year.<br />The Supreme Court case involved the city of New London, Connecticut, which wants to seize property to make way for a hotel and convention center.<br />The majority opinion said New London could pursue private development under the Fifth Amendment, which allows governments to take private property if the land is for public use. It said the project the city has in mind promises to produce jobs and revenue.
 

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Re: Eminent Domain? Hey Souter! You Lose!

How long if this actually went through, do you think it would take them to "review" that decision again?
 

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It will still be fun to watch. I really hope the guy can pull it off.
 

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Weare is the next town over from me. The population is about 3-5K, very rural town with one blinking stop light. Can't see a hotel drawing too many people there. Still is cool that they are turning the heat up on Souter though.
 

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Hey... I'm thinking 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC. would be a revenue generating Casino, creating jobs in the District, and reducing crime. Need to cal the Don. You guys in?
 

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Don't forget. The womens correctional facility is in the next town over (Goffstown). This hotel could accomodate all of Pam Smarts fan club members.<br /><br />I hope this goes through. Guys like Souter think the laws they pass only affect the "little people" like us.<br /><br />Live Free or Die!!
 

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All souter needs is a large dose of radioactive material. Bury in the dirt. Sell the land. Screw them suckers!<br /><br />Sean
 
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Can't see a hotel drawing too many people there.
Don't write this off. City slickers will pay BIG BUCK$$$ to; "get out of it".<br /><br />I heard the (developer) wants to call the hotel the: "Lost Liberty" featuring a cafe' named "Just Deserts".<br /><br />How poetic. <br /><br />As far as I'm concerned, MORE power to them. I hope they teach Justice Souter a well deserved lesson.<br /><br />That lesson being, leave the constitution alone, DON'T-RE-WRITE it.<br /><br />For those of us that actually believe in the American Constitution, the job of the "Judicial" is to "interpret", not "make", law.<br /><br />One thing has to be remembered though. Supreme court justices are treated like KINGS. They have 24/7 security, drivers, cars, expenses paid, etc.<br /><br />Betcha the average Joe didn't know that. One thinks the Pres. is coddled? The Supreme Court Justices are "diety's" as a comparison.<br /><br />Many think that the US Senate is the most exclusive club in the civilized world. Wrong-the Supreme Court is.
 

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why not turn it in to a house of ill repute ? now that would really service the community<br /> :D
 

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I will admit my ignorance of the fine points of the subject, but why is Souter the ony subject of attack?<br /><br />At the same time, I hope Clements will pursue the proposal. Show the high court what their decisions feel like. A hotel, even a modest one would be valued higher than Souters house. And therfore would be more beneficial to th ecommunity as a source of jobs and revenue. Sounds like a slam dunk based on the Supreme (stupididty) Court's decision.
 

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Originally posted by David L. Moore:<br />[QB] why is Souter the ony subject of attack?/QB]
Justice Souter was a big proponent for this decision and he has his primary residence close & handy for people that live in a state with the motto, "Live free or die". <br /><br /><br />The fella heading up the big push on this is in Calif., but I don't think we've seen all the cards he has to play in this game yet. <br /><br />Such as: There's a good chance the folks up there will really go through the process, and do it to Justice Souter. I wouldn't bet more than I'm willing to lose and think they won't.<br /><br />As far as making the hotel a sucessful business? That is irrelevant. If they build it, never rent a room, burn it down the day its finished, or after the house is scraped off the lot, say, "Sorry folks,,, we're out of money, we can't actually build the hotel. Will somebody help us get the bulldozers back to the rental company"?". The message will have been sent.<br /><br /><br />Funding won't be a problem either. With 96% of the US population against this ruling-- private donations will flow in like flood water to build this thing, or try to help elect city officials that will allow it to be built. <br /><br /><br />I think Justice Souter's house will be the first of several govt. officials to have this done to them if this ruling doesn't get changed, or the precedence set by it gets used around the country. Even if their houses don't get taken, its a real hassel, potentially expensive, and a very embarassing process to go through in defending themselves against it. <br /><br />There hasn't been much coverage of it, But--<br />Some of the other places that were in the case around the country have had numerous death threats made on their local govt. officials if they do go ahead and condem the private propertys.
 

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You know, it's fun and all to jump on the bandwagon with everyone else in putting down the Court's ruling. But, all the Court ruled was that the State's are perfectly within their rights to go through with condemnations. Why isn't anyone questioning the State? <br /><br />And then you need to think about what would happen if the State's were not allowed to condemn property. How would they ever build a road or an airport? All it would take would be for one or two poperty owners to refuse to sell and a road <br />widening project would have to be stopped.<br /><br />It is a good thing that our government is a representative type government. The people elected get a chance to study the issues and think through their decisions. If we have a democracy and people voted on every issue without any thought to the reprecussions our country would quickley fall to pieces.
 

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The big difference is the government seizing property for PRIVATE use.<br /><br />If they seize it for PUBLIC use (a highway, park, airport, etc) that is the way it was intended. I dont always like it this way either, but progress is required.<br /><br />Just last week I drove down the bayfront houses here in Baytown, and they are all pretty much dumps. Now, they are dumps with targets painted on their sides. The city can make the owners move to make way for a new hotel, or even for a developer to tear down their homes, and put up mansions.<br /><br />Ken
 

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Originally posted by wvit100:<br /> if the State's were not allowed to condemn property. How would they ever build a road or an airport? All it would take would be for one or two poperty owners to refuse to sell and a road widening project would have to be stopped.<br />
I guess you've been snoozing in class again wvit. ;) The above is the legitimate use of eminate domain. The SP just expanded that definition to include the taking of property and giving it to other individuals soley for the purpose of increasing the value of the property to collect higher property tax revenues so they can continue to expand their little pet social programs.<br /><br />That is why they need to take Souter's home. Oh, I would love it so! What is good for the goose should be demonstrated to be good for the gander.
 

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Originally posted by KenImpZoom:<br /> The city can make the owners move to make way for a new hotel, or even for a developer to tear down their homes, and put up mansions.<br />Ken
I wonder how many new Timmy McVeighs this court ruling will spawn if local govts. are really energized and use this expanded power much.
 
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"Whoever thought Democracy would fail because there was too much money in it?" (anonymous)
 

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in the UK we have a "compulsary Purchase Order" this means if the local council come up with a plan of what they want to do and your house or business is in the way they buy it without your consent.I know this from bitter experience ,I am a manager of a small food retail outlet and the council (local government) wants a large retailer to move in to pay for upgrading the town centre part of the deal is to knock down our store to make way for smaller non food retailers and remove the compitition ,thus sweetening the deal,this is your future enjoy :(
 
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