Engine oil question Mercruiser 3.0

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Ralph 123

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Here is the results of some reserach I did last summer on the topic of oils:<br /><br />From www.howstuffworks.com<br /><br />Multi-weight oils (such as 10W-30) are a new invention made possible by adding polymers to oil. The polymers allow the oil to have different weights at different temperatures. The first number indicates the viscosity of the oil at a cold temperature, while the second number indicates the viscosity at operating temperature. This page offers the following very interesting description of how the polymers work: <br /><br />At cold temperatures, the polymers are coiled up and allow the oil to flow as their low numbers indicate. As the oil warms up, the polymers begin to unwind into long chains that prevent the oil from thinning as much as it normally would. The result is that at 100 degrees C, the oil has thinned only as much as the higher viscosity number indicates. Another way of looking at multi-vis oils is to think of a 20W-50 as a 20 weight oil that will not thin more than a 50 weight would when hot. <br /><br />************<br /><br />from www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-overview.html<br /><br />Multi viscosity oils are one of the great improvements in oils, but they should be chosen wisely. Always use a multi grade with the narrowest span of viscosity that is appropriate for the temperatures you are going to encounter. In the winter base your decision on the lowest temperature you will encounter, in the summer, the highest temperature you expect. The polymers can shear and burn forming deposits that can cause ring sticking and other problems. 10W-40 and 5W-30 require a lot of polymers (synthetics excluded) to achieve that range. This has caused problems in diesel engines, but fewer polymers are better for all engines. The wide viscosity range oils, in general, are more prone to viscosity and thermal breakdown due to the high polymer content. It is the oil that lubricates, not the additives. Oils that can do their job with the fewest additives are the best. <br /><br />Very few manufactures recommend 10W-40 any more, and some threaten to void warranties if it is used. It was not included in this article for that reason. 20W-50 is the same 30 point spread, but because it starts with a heavier base it requires less viscosity index improvers (polymers) to do the job. AMSOIL can formulate their 10W-30 and 15W-40 with no viscosity index improvers but uses some in the 10W-40 and 5W-30. Mobil 1 uses no viscosity improvers in their 5W-30, and I assume the new 10W-30. Follow your manufacturer's recommendations as to which weights are appropriate for your vehicle. ....<br /><br />The synthetics offer the only truly significant differences, due to their superior high temperature oxidation resistance, high film strength, very low tendency to form deposits, stable viscosity base, and low temperature flow characteristics. Synthetics are superior lubricants compared to traditional petroleum oils. You will have to decide if their high cost is justified in your application. <br /><br />The extended oil drain intervals given by the vehicle manufacturers (typically 7500 miles) and synthetic oil companies (up to 25,000 miles) are for what is called normal service. Normal service is defined as the engine at normal operating temperature, at highway speeds, and in a dust free environment. Stop and go, city driving, trips of less than 10 miles, or extreme heat or cold puts the oil change interval into the severe service category, which is 3000 miles for most vehicles. Synthetics can be run two to three times the mileage of petroleum oils with no problems. They do not react to combustion and combustion by-products to the extent that the dead dinosaur juice does. The longer drain intervals possible help take the bite out of the higher cost of the synthetics. If your car or bike is still under warranty you will have to stick to the recommended drain intervals. These are set for petroleum oils and the manufacturers make no official allowance for the use of synthetics. <br /><br />Oil additives should not be used. The oil companies have gone to great lengths to develop an additive package that meets the vehicle's requirements. Some of these additives are synergistic, that is the effect of two additives together is greater than the effect of each acting separately. If you add anything to the oil you may upset this balance and prevent the oil from performing to specification. <br /><br />*********<br /><br />This was my key take away:<br /><br />
Always use a multi grade with the narrowest span of viscosity that is appropriate for the temperatures you are going to encounter. In the winter base your decision on the lowest temperature you will encounter, in the summer, the highest temperature you expect. The polymers can shear and burn forming deposits that can cause ring sticking and other problems. 10W-40 and 5W-30 require a lot of polymers (synthetics excluded) to achieve that range.
 

LubeDude

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Ralph:<br /><br />Very Good, Youve done your homework!! You get an A+.<br /><br />Dosent say anything about running the Cr*p out of your boat though does it? There is more to think about than just Viscosity, but its a start.
 

charleswmoore

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Go Amsoil synthetic. I believe. In two cases I have pulled down motors that ran this oil. One was due to a hydralock issue with a bad manifold and the other was due to a head gasket on a friends escort due to overheating. To make a long story short both had a lot of hours / mileage and neither had any ridge to speak about. Also about 10 years ago my buddies two stroke engine had a problem in the upper asembly and the dealer accused him of running cheep oil due to the carbon buildup. He was using factory two stroke oil. At this time he changed to Amsoil and the following year when he had the same mechanic put in high performance reeds, he commented that it was about time he started using a quaility oil instead of the cheep stuff??? No I'm not an Amsoil dealer but seeing is believing. In my vehicles that have higher than normal consumption I use straight 30 weight Penz. in my old VP 280 drive I used the diesal<br />amsoil and was very happy. Drive still in use and it was a 1979 rebuilt in 1986<br />Just a thought
 

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I know this a super old thread but how do you all feel about using a higher weight oil in Arizona? It's like 110 degrees sometimes......
 
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