engine removal idea

boston_jake01

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I was looking for some ideas on how to remove my inboard engines from my 30 trojan. its on boat stands and its about 10-12 feet to the rail that needs to be cleared and the engines are about 10 feet in from the stern. there is a flybridge so using a crane is not an option.
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oops!

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Re: engine removal idea

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a back hoe is the tool for that job.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: engine removal idea

big back hoe, with extending arm. with qualified operator.
 

NoKlu

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Re: engine removal idea

A picker truck with an extending boom would do the trick. The backhoe would work but an extendahoe would be the one to get. It will reach right in there with the bucket removed. A good operator is a must if you want to keep the roof.
 

mthieme

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Re: engine removal idea

A Galleon would do the trick too.
Either way, sounds like you're going be renting a piece of equipment.
 

mthieme

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Sorry, I misspelled it...Gallion. They make heavy equipment.
The most recognizable piece is their wheeled swivel bucket...it has a telescoping perforated triangular arm. You'd recognize it if you saw it going down the road.
The next most common of their equipment includes small yard cranes.
I can't seem to google up an image.
Maybe I should have simply recommended a small crane.
 

WizeOne

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Re: engine removal idea

A bit off subject but what got to that hull? Those are some mean abrasion holes.
 

arks

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Re: engine removal idea

I changed my Silvertons starboard engine last year. It has the same basic layout as the Trojan (straight-shaft inboards) but my engines are inside the salon, so a sliding glass door was involved as well.
We built a large A-frame to span over the engine. I used 2x4's for the legs and a 2x6 for the top beam. The plan was to dis-assemble as much of the engine as possible before pulling it- to save both weight and physical size.

We took off the intake and exhaust manifolds, both heads, starter, distributor, water pump, and anything else we could unhook. The engine mounts were then loosened and transmission disconnected. We assembled the A-frame in the salon as high as possible to give us the maximum lift (almost touching the ceiling), and attached a chainfall to the 2x6 directly above the lifting eye. After taking the weight off the mounts, I removed the bolts and we were able to lift it right out of the engine room. When we got it as high as possible, we replaced the floor and put a piece of plywood down over the carpet. We put a moving dolly under the engine and lowered it down, then removed the chainfall and securely tied the engine to the dolly. The engine barely made it thru the slider but we got it to the cockpit with no problem. Since the boat was floating, I enlisted some additional manpower, and 4 of us were able to lift it (with the dolly still underneath) on to the dock, where I easily rolled it to my truck. Again, 4 guys lifted it into the bed.
There 'ya go. That's how I did it.
Now, for this application, it seems that a second, larger, A-frame could be built, with the front legs in the cockpit and the rear about 6' past the transom on the ground. The top beam in this case should be a beefy piece of steel pipe or channel. Lift it up and over the transom, then slide the chainfall and engine over the rear and out. Lower it and you're done. Just make sure the A-frame is really rigid- cross bracing will be needed for sure.
Good luck.
 

boston_jake01

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Re: engine removal idea

that seems like the most doable for me i will give that some thinking and planning thanks for the help.
 

jonesg

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Re: engine removal idea

I changed my Silvertons starboard engine last year. It has the same basic layout as the Trojan (straight-shaft inboards) but my engines are inside the salon, so a sliding glass door was involved as well.
We built a large A-frame to span over the engine. I used 2x4's for the legs and a 2x6 for the top beam. The plan was to dis-assemble as much of the engine as possible before pulling it- to save both weight and physical size.

We took off the intake and exhaust manifolds, both heads, starter, distributor, water pump, and anything else we could unhook. The engine mounts were then loosened and transmission disconnected. We assembled the A-frame in the salon as high as possible to give us the maximum lift (almost touching the ceiling), and attached a chainfall to the 2x6 directly above the lifting eye. After taking the weight off the mounts, I removed the bolts and we were able to lift it right out of the engine room. When we got it as high as possible, we replaced the floor and put a piece of plywood down over the carpet. We put a moving dolly under the engine and lowered it down, then removed the chainfall and securely tied the engine to the dolly. The engine barely made it thru the slider but we got it to the cockpit with no problem. Since the boat was floating, I enlisted some additional manpower, and 4 of us were able to lift it (with the dolly still underneath) on to the dock, where I easily rolled it to my truck. Again, 4 guys lifted it into the bed.
There 'ya go. That's how I did it.
Now, for this application, it seems that a second, larger, A-frame could be built, with the front legs in the cockpit and the rear about 6' past the transom on the ground. The top beam in this case should be a beefy piece of steel pipe or channel. Lift it up and over the transom, then slide the chainfall and engine over the rear and out. Lower it and you're done. Just make sure the A-frame is really rigid- cross bracing will be needed for sure.
Good luck.


yeh, thats clever. Break the project down into manageable steps.

My biz is next door to an industrial rigger company, one of their guys is into boats and helps me when I have to move the boat or engine around, its amazing what can be done with a few logs and a simple hoist.

craigslist always has chain hoists and I beams cheap.
 

boston_jake01

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Re: engine removal idea

To answer your question wizeone, I recieved the boat like this I was told that it broke from its mooring and hit ground. there is a crack that runs along the chine about 4 - 5 feet. Ithe previous owner attempted to fix it but, it was done wrong so I have started grinding the repair job down to the original fiberglass in prep for a repair. I got the the for free and plan on taking my time and restore it.
 

Ned L

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Re: engine removal idea

What 'Arks' described is pretty much the standard procedure for pulling an engine. Two things to take into account. Remember to make sure the cabin sole & cockpit sole can take the weight of the engine once it is up. Also, keep in mind that as soon as the engine is lifted clear of the mounts its effect on stability moves to the point where the chain fall attaches to the 'A' frame (in other words, as soon as the engine clears the mounts and has the ability to swing free, its effect on the stability of the boat is exactly the same as if the entire mass of the engine is up at the poit where the chain fall connects to the A frame. It can sometimes make a big difference to instantly raise the effect of 500 - 700 pounds of mass up seven or so feet.)
 
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