Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

[hcrisp]

Hello All<br />In my previous post I had fire but would not run when I release the key to the monitary position. Now I have no spark at all. could it be that the plugs have fouled out? Gas and oil in the plugs from trying to crank it. The starter battery will have to be repalced because I have run it down so often it will not charge over 11.86 V. Have replaced the key switch and the power pack without success. All wires pass the con. test and all ground wires look to be in good shape. I have reached my limits.

 

[Seasport]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Hi just1hawg<br />There is a good book on troubleshooting ignition problems which can be downloaded from www.rapair.com. It has a section devoted to the OIS 2000.<br /><br />May help you diagnose the problem.

 

[Seasport]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Just another thought. With this igniiton system, the powerpack & optical sensor are normally powered from a separate power coil in the stator. Because there may not be enough voltage generated during starting, there is another wire (yellow/red) providing 12V from the starter solenoid when the starter is engaged.<br /><br />Just maybe the power coil is faulty or the wires from it are open circuit or shorted to ground(orange & orange/black). In this case the optical sensor will only work during engine cranking whne it is receiving power.<br /><br />The power coil should give a 45 - 65 ohm resistance according to the book and give a 12V DVA reading across it during cranking.<br /><br />Maybe you should check this out.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

I hate to say this but a year 2000 Evinrude is a FICHT engine and does not have an OIS ignition system.<br /><br />Yours has to be earlier than 1999, so if you could post the model number, we could tell you what year engine you have and can give you better answers.

 

[hcrisp]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Thanks Seasport/Seahorse<br />The year is 1996/150 evinrude 60 deg. engine/ <br />model# E150GLEDB. The problem started as eng. shut down while running after aprox 6 miles. tried to restart and would only run when key was held to start position. When the key was released to the run position the motor would cut off. Replaced the key switch and the power pack and still had the same problem. The next day I tried to start it it would not fire at all. The plugs may have fouled out due to eccesive oil and gas but I dont think so. They are brand-new just replaced them prior to the sox mile run. I beleave I have checked all the wiring but will follow through again. If you need any more info please let me know.<br /> Thank You very much for all your support and help.

 

[Seasport]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

If it is an OIS 2000 ignition system (& I think it should be), my money is still on a faulty power coil in the stator. If this is open circuit or grounded, you will get no power to your ignition electronics (& hence no spark) unless you are cranking the engine (when the ignition electronics are fed via a separate power source from the solenoid). The reason why you have no spark at all now may be related to the fact that your battery is now kaput and you are getting very low voltage on cranking.<br /><br />I'd check out the power coil winding in the stator. Unplug the cable from the stator to the powerpack and check the resistance between the orange & orange/black wires. It should be around 45-65 ohms. Then check the resistance from each lead to ground (there should be no connection). If you can crank your engine, check the voltage between the orange & orange/black wires - should show a DVA voltage of something up to 50V.

 

[Seasport]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Good luck. Let me know how you get on. I have the Clymers manual too. They have a section in it on testing the power coil but sort of hard to figure out what's going on since it covers so many different models.

 

[hcrisp]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Thanks Seaport<br />I was leaning in that direction but not enough experiance to go any deeper without help. I have a clymers manuel to help but sound advise from people who now where to look is of much greater value. I will follow up on your advise and let you know what I find. I am a firefighter and work 24hr shifts so it takes me a few days to get time to work on my motor. Will let you know as soon as I can.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

SeaSport is in the right track. When first cranking over the motor, a by-pass wire from the starter solenoid Yellow/Red wire furnishes voltage to turn on the electric eyes. When the engine starts, the flywheel magnets and the power coil supply voltage to run the eyes and the "computer" inside the power pack. Since the engine dies as soon as you release the key from the starter position, chances are the power coil or something internal to the pack is malfunctioning.

 

[hcrisp]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Thanks Guys<br />I have a Lt. test at 1 pm est. time for the fire dept. Will let you know what I find as soon as I can get to it after the test.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Originally posted by just1hawg:<br /> Thanks Guys<br />I have a Lt. test at 1 pm est. time for the fire dept. Will let you know what I find as soon as I can get to it after the test.

Please email me at seahorse5@hotmail.com<br /><br />Thanks

 

[hcrisp]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Ok <br />I checked the orange/orange-black-strip coming from the stator today and the voltage never got above 8.4 volts. Does the dva adaptor have to be on the meter for this type of test or will a regular volt meter test it fine. I did get it to start again but it will not stay running in the run position as it was befor. I guess the battery was to low voltage to get it to start. It looks like the stator is the problem but what do you think. Let me know. If so how hard is it to change the stator out and get the fly wheel back on or off for that matter.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

You will need a special tool to lift the flywheel off because of the limited access and the strength of the magnets. It is also recommended to replace the 5 flywheel holding bolts and be sure to torque them correctly.<br /><br />www.precisionmfgsales.com has the special flywheel removal tool or it can be ordered from your dealer.

 

[hcrisp]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Ok Guys<br />Due to equipment and money issues I am going to take it to the dealer for repairs. It seems to be the stator and this could have been my problem when I took it to them last month. They said it was the spark plugs and I ran approx 6 miles when the motor quit. I am going to address this issue with them and will let you know what they do to solve the problem.<br /> Thanks for all the advise and help up to this point.

 

[Seasport]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

OK. Sounds like it is the stator. Did you do the resistance tests? Let us know what they find.

 

[hcrisp]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Thanks for the help seaport<br />I will let you know as soon as I do. I tested all I could but don,t have the proper equipment to do all the tests but plan to when money allows

 

[Seasport]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Any multimeter should allow you to measure resistance. Yep, one definition of a boat is a hole in the water in which you pour money! Good luck!

 

[hcrisp]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

The stator was the problem guy,s Thanks for all the help. They did put the part on for less than I could find it on line so that was a plus. Wish all of you the best. I will keep my eyes here from now on. Dont have much to offer but lots to learn. LOL so true

 

[Seasport]

Re: Evinrude 150 OIS 2000 No Fire/Spark

Good news! I'm pleased the problem is sorted. Hey there's lots for all of us to learn. Have fun on the water!