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Thanks for the info. The nada guide lists the weight at 265 but I've found these weights innacurate many times so that's why I wanted somebody with the factory manual which has the real weight. <br />WillyB...why do I want to know? My dinky boat doesn't have much transom freeboard left now with a 190 lb 70 hp motor. I don't want it to sink when I back down the ramp with the heavier 80 hp on it. People at the ramp tend to laugh too much. That's how I tell when I've got too much motor, if the rear end sinks.