Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

[Bigprairie1]

Ok guys, I know a lot of you know your stuff and your way around guns, particularly rifles.
So I'd love to harness some of that knowledge and feedback. Here are some guns that I'm trying to find an approximate or estimated value on and maybe some of you guys can help me out.
First, they are all old Winchesters:
-Model 1890, Hex Barrel, Chambered .22 cal., Serial # 247xxx (6 digits)
-Model 67, Round Barrel, Chambered .22 cal., Serial # 236xxx (6 digits)
-Model 94, Hex Barrel, Chambered .32 Cal., Serial # 264xxx (6 digits)
-Model 1892, Hex Barrel, Chambered 25-20 Cal., Serial # 295xxx (6 digits)
-Model 1892 , Hex Barrel, Chambered .32 Cal., Serial # 74xxx (5 digits)
-Model 1892, Round Barrel (Saddle Rifle/Carbine), Chambered .44, Serial #324xxx (6 Digits)
-Model 1894, Round Barrel, Chambered .32 cal, Serial # 404xxx
Backstory: This is part of the collection that I inherited from my Dad that have been in storage for a while and I'm just starting to spend a little time sorting them out.
I've included a few quick pics of some of them...taken without too much prep or fanfare. Remember they've been in storage for a while.
I'd love to figure out how wwhat a ballpark value(s) would be on them and ho to restore them back to firing condition without messing them up.
Many Thanks Guys!!!
BP

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

....and here are a couple more pics.
BP

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

First of all, take them to a honest gun smith that is well versed in antique firearms. Have him/her check them over to see what it is going to take to make them shootable, after you have done this, ask if he knows any good quality antique firearms dealers that could help you establish value.

Looking at your location, I don't know what you have available to you in BC in those regards, it may be worth a trip to the Seattle area to find a good and honest dealer, I don't mean that in a derogatory manner, just don't know what you have available to you in Canada.

Old Winchesters can be worth a ton, or they can be worth a little, I have lucked out on some and have lost my butt on others.

Good luck.

 

[puddle jumper]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

MT is right if they don't fire the value will be greatly reduced.

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Good feedback so far guys.....and that said, they are probably operable but they do need a good cleaning (which should be in the pics).
Any idea of min/max values? What drives the values or do they have to be restored first?
I don't mind checking out a good gunsmith but they would have to be very legit.....it would be far too easy for one of these to go 'missing' if somebody took a shine to it...then I'd have to develop a type of possibly regretful recourse.
Thanks
BP

 

[JB]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Buy a current copy of The Gun Traders Guide, BP. It is published by Stoegers. My copy is too old to be of any use except to define different conditions. I have used it in the past with success. I have found them in Wal Mart.

It will tell you how to determine the condition of the guns and give you current market value ranges.

Good luck.

 

[southkogs]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Among other things, look up the local Cowboy Action Shooting League or Single Action Shooting League. Those are gonna' be guys who shoot that stuff more, and know the arms a bit better.

If you're up for a good time ... shoot with 'em a bit too.

 

[joed]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Good feedback so far guys.....and that said, they are probably operable but they do need a good cleaning (which should be in the pics).
Any idea of min/max values? What drives the values or do they have to be restored first?
I don't mind checking out a good gunsmith but they would have to be very legit.....it would be far too easy for one of these to go 'missing' if somebody took a shine to it...then I'd have to develop a type of possibly regretful recourse.
Thanks
BP

When you think you have found a good one take him one gun. If you are satisfied with the service take him another or all the rest.

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

When you think you have found a good one take him one gun. If you are satisfied with the service take him another or all the rest.

..that was I thinking too!! I would possibly start with the model 1894. The saddle/carbine 1892 (.44) is my favourite of them so I would hang on to that until I saw some good results coming back.
My Dad's favourite was the Model 94 (.32 Cal.). He said that was the straightest shooting gun he ever owned. It hasn't been fired in almost 45 years tho'.
Except for the (2) smaller .22 cal (which are pumps), they are all lever action, original finish and stock rifles.
Some of the other candidates that would be up for a resto would be nice hex barrel/lever action Marlin (old series) and an older .22 Cal Savage pump...similar to the Winchester Model 1890/67's. It uses a clip...which is currently missing and long gone at the moment.
Any guesstimates on values guys?
Thanks
BP

 

[JRJ]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

If you don't already know a competent gunsmith, I wouldn't take a chance on an unknown. I wouldn't worry too much about funtion or even cleaning yet. Take a look at http://gunbroker.com
you can get an idea of value there. Have fun with your treasures.

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

JRJ....great side recommendation. Wow, I'm a little surprised on that values....some of those are well into 4 figures. I was thinking of lower 3 figures to start.
Hmmmm, lots of perusing to do here on those orig. 1892's.....
Many Thanks!!!
BP

 

[JRJ]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

You're welcome, I enjoyed your pics!!

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Some good links on that site as well, here is a bit of an update as to the age (year of manufacture) of them:
1905: -Model 1890, Hex Barrel, Chambered .22 cal., Serial # 247xxx (6 digits)
1934-42: -Model 67, Round Barrel, Chambered .22 cal., Serial # 236xxx (6 digits)
1903: -Model 94, Hex Barrel, Chambered .32 Cal., Serial # 264xxx (6 digits)
1905: -Model 1892, Hex Barrel, Chambered 25-20 Cal., Serial # 295xxx (6 digits)
1895: -Model 1892 , Hex Barrel, Chambered .32 Cal., Serial # 74xxx (5 digits)...THIS IS THE OLDEST ONE AT THIS POINT.
1906: -Model 1892, Round Barrel (Saddle Rifle/Carbine), Chambered .44, Serial #324xxx (6 Digits)
1906: -Model 1894, Round Barrel, Chambered .32 cal, Serial # 404xxx
......Much more to do on this tho'....interesting stuff and the plot thickens.
All Good
BP

 

[JB]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Do not restore any of them until after a gun trader has recommended it, BP. I cleaned up and refinished Grandpa's Parker Trojan. Dealer told me I cut the market value in half.

 

[BlkY2k]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Do not restore any of them until after a gun trader has recommended it, BP. I cleaned up and refinished Grandpa's Parker Trojan. Dealer told me I cut the market value in half.

Noooooooooooooooooo not a Parker. Dad gum it. I`ve got my Great grand dads here, Be-a-uitful guns.

 

[MTboatguy]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

I would never recommend taking all of the guns into anyone at the same time, let them look at one or two at a time. And never restore any gun before being told to by an expert, as noted sometimes restoration can be the worst thing you can do to an older gun, if they need work to be shootable that is one thing, trying to make them look like new can kill them.

 

[CheapboatKev]

Re: Experts needed: Classic Gun Value

Take a look here and browse what is being asked for.
You can use the search features on the left to narrow by caliber that should help.
I would suggest you do nothing more than clean them, run a brush down the bore and oil them.
many collectors want that aged patina, and a re-bluing job will make a 5k rifle a 2k shooter

http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search.aspx?ltid-all=1&t=winchester 1894&as=365&mn=0&mx=0&ffl=&ca=&co=&f=&sort=&numberperpage=50&cid=757&lid=&dn=&ns=0&zipcode=&distance=0&limittostate=&


also
http://www.rarewinchesters.com/index.shtml


and

http://www.tapaderaswinchesters.com/guns.html



I envy your collection...enjoy your fathers collection.