Fram oil filters good enough?

[Skinnywater]

Re: Fram oil filters good enough?

Hello David,<br />The media looked like crumbled cardboad in small 1/8" squares. It was plastered on the pump pickup along with gasket material and a few pieces of RTV. Part of the media was sticking out of the filter and somemore was stuck and hanging out of the oil pressure relief valve bore. Chances are pretty good that's were it came from.<br /><br />

The only way you can dispute his post is if you simply refuse to accept the cold, hard facts.

Hmmm, David.......Pointer is too smart to imply his post is the "hard" or absolute facts. My posts contain additional facts and they aren't absolute either. <br /><br />But here, since this thread has long past a matter of opinion or arguement, let me put it to you another way;<br />There is absolutlely nothing you can do or say to change my position on this matter.

 

[Scaaty]

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Nothing wrong with Fram. I just last month stuck the one from my Astro Van up in my lathe and cut it open. Looks fine, just like the other filters I have cut open. Crud where it should be, and media just fine, as also the rubber and tin and threads. The bad mouthing of Fram was a disgruntled employee best I can tell. I use them in my boats, Harleys where I can, and will continue to use them, as I have a cut open one to show if ya want. Nuff said

 

[Scaaty]

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I'm going to start a new thread with a picture of a cut up Fram....

 

[fishingTexas]

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I used to use fram on my truck & mustang until last month... I purchased a fram filter for my 04 mustang at Walmart. I changed my oil, replaced the filter and started her up. I looked under the car to check for leaks and saw oil pouring all over the ground. Of course I quickly shut-off the car and inspected the filter. I found that the center of the filter was raised about 1" higher than than the old fram filter. This prevented the gasket from fully seating against the engine. This filter was obviously out of spec. I suspected that Walmart had been duped, and purchased a knock-off filter from the cheapest chinese source they could find. After confirming that I had the filter specified for my car, I called fram to report the incident, and offered to mail the filter to them. I couldn't get a hold of a live person, so I left a voice mail. No response. <br />Now, I don't buy any autoparts at Walmart nor do I use fram filters.

 

[BillP]

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I'd better tell my old car with 235k miles that Frams aren't good for it. It doesn't use oil between the usual 3000 mile changes either. The same goes for the last 1/2 dozen cars I've owned. Drove most to near 200k and the motors still tight. The only time I didn't use Fram was when they were out of stock. Oh, and the oil used 99% of the time was Kendall pet oil.<br /><br />It's funny to see Wix being so "good" now. Our local Ford tractor dealer had a lot of requests for Wix filters so he decided to make a display. He cut a Wix in half and a Ford OEM filter in half and mounted them to a board placed in the lobby. The Wix had styrofoam type balls for filter media and the OEM had a superior paper element. He said the Wix looked more like an oil cooler than filter. Nobody bought Wix after seeing the two side by side. That was a few years ago but I've stayed away from Wix for that reason alone.

 

[bluewater19]

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I just put a pretty new blue little oil filter on my 1995 honda civic with 378,000 original owner miles on it. <br /> It is an OEM filter as DJ and my father who has worked for honda as a tech for ever preach.<br />I couldn't help but laugh my a$$ off when I noticed in the corner in little letters "MADE BY FRAM". Does Fram make OEM filters to different specs than they do for themselves??<br /><br /> Everyone knows honda enjoys a great reputation for making cars that go forever when properly maintained, and although the dealership my father works for is small, hondas with 200K+ are the norm there. Why would honda use such a crappy product??<br /> For the most part I use fram or Wallyword filters cause they are cheaper, but on this last oilchange I got the filter from the dealer cause I needed gaskets for the valve ajustment anyway.<br /><br />I case anyone wants to know,I also use mobile one synthetic in all my cars, boats and lower units.<br />1995 honda 378K<br />1988 Honda 198K<br />1999 suburban 125K<br />2 boats with 4.3's/alpha drive<br />1 boat with merc 75<br /><br />I have never had any oil related problems with any of my vehicles from fram/wallyworld/OEM/filters, but I guess I am lucky.

 

[tommays]

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i would be suprised if every brand of oil filter ever made had not had a dud at some point that broke something<br /><br />which is what all these good/bad things come down to somebody had a bad experience with a bad one<br /><br /><br />tommays

 

[LubeDude]

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Originally posted by craze1cars:<br /> Especially the part about most filter failures usually failing due to overdue oil changes.

I beg to differ, at least with both of them that I experienced, both were in less that 500 Miles. One on a 350 chevy, and one on a 351 Clevland. Both of them were rattling around in the case.

 

[LubeDude]

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"Quote":<br /><br />If the filter media ruptures, how will it become plastered to the oil pump pick-up screen? The oil flows from the sump in the pan, into the oil pick-up tube through the pick-up screen. Then it flows intot the oil pump, out of the pump into the filter(typically) out of the filter (through any cooler) into the main journals and the cam journals throught the repective bearings. So how will the filter media get back into the oil in large enough pieces to collect in the pick-up screen? Bearing clearances are typically .001-.005". The filter media would have to flow through the oil passages, through the oil holes in the bearing inserts, through the oil clearances between the bearing inserts and the cam/crank".<br /><br />Doesn't make sense.<br /><br /><br />Ya, I think you got him on that one.

 

[Manipulator]

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I typically use the Super Tech filters or rather the Wal-Mart brand. Last oil change I bought one for my Expedition and took a good look at it. It seemed heavy and well built. The insides looked pretty good and the filter paper was encased in steel with holes. I had good construction with a good seal and spring at the end for bypass during cold starts. Few days a go it was time for another change so I go to Wal-Mart and get the same filter (Super Tech). I take my oil filter off and take the new one out of the box. They are totally different. The new filter is very light weight and a half inch shorter than the old one. I look inside and there is no steel encasement for the filter. The new one is just paper with two nylon rings that keep the paper in cylinder form. At the end of it, I don’t even see a bypass valve or spring. This by far is the cheapest filter I have ever come across. Looks like Wal-Mart has switched manufactures. I used the filter anyway but for now on I’m going to spend a buck more and get a better made product.

 

[Homerr]

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I always use Motorcraft, but my local WallyWorld discontinued them.<br /><br />I've used Fram in the past with no problems, however I would prefer OEM.<br /><br /><br />H.